TSR Who's running the TSR3 social media accounts?

Ernie Gygax (before he and Stephen Dinehart accused the whole affair of being orchestrated by WotC and then deleted their Twitter accounts) indicated that Justin LaNasa was running the social media accounts for TSR3, Giantlands, and Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum.

After a full week of insults, barbed exchanges, and problematic statements from all three accounts, the following has been posted by somebody who identified themselves as "Michael", perhaps suggesting that Justin LaNasa is no longer with the company (which seems unlikely), leaving many on social media to question whether "Michael" exists. The new TSR3 was founded by LaNasa, Stephen Dinehart, and Ernie Gygax, and despite the acrinomious social media activity, the former two founders' names have largely escaped much of the criticism.

UPDATE -- the below tweets now appear to have been deleted.

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Around the same time, the header above the available events at the Dungeon Hobby Shop Museum website was altered to read: "Most role playing games will be played in old school fashion so if you're easliy offended or Rude ! DO NOT PLAY !" (sic)

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So who is TSR3 co-founder Justin LaNasa? He was an American politician who ran for office in 2014 and 2020, and who was involved in a minor scandal during the latter campaign.

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[Umbran]

Civilized peoples do not pass judgements in the market place outside the law.

Oh, yes they do. Or, alternatively, if that it true, there has never been any human civilization at all.

Human civilizations include the law, but do not pretend, even for a moment, that the law is the sum total and comprehensive list of all judgements a civilization can, or should, make. That is not how it has worked in 10,000 years.

 

[BookTenTiger]

Again, you mistake the court of public opinion versus rule of law. Twitter keeps evidence and that is forwarded for investigation of those users whose targeted harassment of Ernie may cause him harm. If that harm happens, the authorities have those Tweets, not you.

Civilized peoples do not pass judgements in the market place outside the law.

What do you mean by "civilized people?"

In my opinion, civilized people stand up for those most vulnerable in their society. Right now in the context of this situation, the targeted population is LGBTQ+ gamers, not the company that has been refusing to acknowledge them.

 

[Mannahnin]

Again, you mistake the court of public opinion versus rule of law. Twitter keeps evidence and that is forwarded for investigation of those users whose targeted harassment of Ernie may cause him harm. If that harm happens, the authorities have those Tweets, not you.

Civilized peoples do not pass judgements in the market place outside the law.

IME civilized people PRIMARILY pass judgements in the market place, and resort to the legal system only when they feel they have no other recourse. The legal system is a weighty implement. Criticism, social shunning, boycotting, and similar responses are able to work without the intervention of authoritarian force.

 

[Bolares]

Civilized peoples do not pass judgements in the market place outside the law.

uhhh, aren't you passing judgment on Ernie's supposed harassers?

 

[imagineGod]

Bologna.

In any discussion in which one person makes a claim it falls to that person to provide evidence of their claim.

Russell's Teapot.

And literally every society and civilized person has passed judgment outside of law. In point of fact it is only through judgment outside of law that we create law.

Evidence can be seen here on this thread, where most are engaged in a networked behavior dogpilling on Ernie, and Michael, denying Michael humanity, denying Ernie the possibility the negativity online could cause him harm.

Almost as if to think of Ernie as a vulnerable person who is hurting is unthinkable. Almost as if ridicule of Michael is somehow different if you found out he was a real person who read the attacks upon his personhood and resigned.

That is how "feminization" works, get group approval to target the outsider to your group. And Ernie is so easy a target since he is not even here to defend himself here.

 

[Bolares]

denying Michael humanity

what? We love Michael, we are worried about Michael. #keepmichaelemployed

 

[RFB Dan]

Again, you mistake the court of public opinion versus rule of law. Twitter keeps evidence and that is forwarded for investigation of those users whose targeted harassment of Ernie may cause him harm. If that harm happens, the authorities have those Tweets, not you.

Civilized peoples do not pass judgements in the market place outside the law.

First off, you came in with an accusation; when asked to show us some sort of evidence, you keep bringing up law enforcement for some reason. Unless Twitter completely wiped all evidence of said "harassments," it should be relatively simple to grab a screen cap of it. None of us have seen it, and you are making the accusation, therefore you need to submit the proof or concede you don't have any; without proof most are not going to believe you.

Second, people don't pass judgement outside the law and in the marketplace? Have you read up on the Satanic Panic of the 80s? The PMRC? Tipper Stickers?

 

[imagineGod]

uhhh, aren't you passing judgment on Ernie's supposed harassers?

I never said those harassers should be banned. Yet those harassing Ernie want him banned.

Ernie Gygax is not TSR Games. He may be a shareholder but he is a real human.

Those people claim Ernie hurt, what are their names? Which individual did Ernie directly target dirrctly. I have not seen any evidence yet, just a witch hunt in the public square outside the law.

 

[Mannahnin]

Evidence can be seen here on this thread, where most are engaged in a networked behavior dogpilling on Ernie, and Michael, denying Michael humanity, denying Ernie the possibility the negativity online could cause him harm.

No one is dogpiling on Ernie here. Ernie isn't HERE. Did you read your own cited paper?

Evidence can be seen here on this thread, where most are engaged in a networked behavior dogpilling on Ernie, and Michael, denying Michael humanity, denying Ernie the possibility the negativity online could cause him harm.

Speculating that the surnameless "Michael" may not be real is not in any way denying anyone's humanity. No one is calling him inhuman. We're speculating that he's fictional, because Justin LaNasa, the person known or believed to be behind the TSR Games account, is well established at this point to be dishonest, and he's also the majority owner of TSR Games, so the prospect that he's left the company is highly implausible.

Almost as if to think of Ernie as a vulnerable person who is hurting is unthinkable. Almost as if ridicule of Michael is somehow different if you found out he was a real person who read the attacks upon his personhood and resigned.

You haven't been reading the threads, then? In which dozens of us have expressed concerns that Ernie is being manipulated and used, as well as disappointment in his failures of judgement as an adult human being of whom we hoped better? In which many of us have thanked Rob for his efforts to reach out to his friend with empathy and try to correct his course?

That is how "feminization" works, get group approval to target the outsider to your group. And Ernie is so easy a target since he is not even here to defend himself here.

"feminization"? What on Earth are you talking about?

 

[Bolares]

I never said those harassers should be banned. Yet those harassing Ernie want him banned.

Ernie Gygax is not TSR Games. He may be a shareholder but he is a real human.

Those people claim Ernie hurt, what are their names? Which individual did Ernie directly target dirrctly. I have not seen any evidence yet, just a witch hunt in the public square outside the law.

Ernie isn't here... or even on twitter. And you don't need to ask for someone to be banned to pass judgment on them. If you think they're wrong you are already passing judgment.