Why does any Ring have a caster level lower than 12?

[Infiniti2000]

To respond to the infinite one, because there's no such thing as "the specific" vs. "the generic" in this case.

I see it as a glaring inconsistency. You're changing the meaning of 'creator' in one case, but not the other. It appears like you are using selective reasoning with no rules basis at all. You use the section on cooperation to change the meaning of 'creator' for the individual magical item creation subsections and then don't use the same change of meaning for the section on setting the caster level. Why can the 'creator' not be someone else in that case? Can you provide a consistent definition of 'creator' for us?

PS Note that by using 'you' I've really chosen you as the Champion for the opposing view point. Others obviously agree with you.

 

[Artoomis]

I think you mean "barmy." Otherwise, you're saying that I'm comfortably warm and breezy.

No, I meant "balmy." I think it does mean exactly what I think it means. To be fair, it also means comfortably warm and breezy.

informal or slang terms for mentally irregular; "it used to drive my husband balmy"

"Barmy is just another form of "balmy." The relevant defintion of "barmy" is

balmy: informal or slang terms for mentally irregular; "it used to drive my husband balmy"

So I win that one, right ?

For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the creator. The minimum caster level is that which is needed to meet the prerequisites given.

In any case, that includes the feat, which means at least the level needed to gain the feat, right? Also, doesn't this mean the creator can set any caster level they want - even a very high one - higher than there own level. Except for potions, scrolls and wands, of course.

Obviously I present this as a bit of a ludicrous example of not reading ALL THE RULES TOGETHER.

When you read them all together I think the inescapable conclusion is that the creator must be a person with the appropriate creation feat. the mere fact that in one place there is one sentence which could be read to mean that anyone can provide the feat (one other than thr creator) does not make it so.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

It appears like you are using selective reasoning with no rules basis at all.

I disagree, of course.

"Generic Section": Rules A, B, C, and D

"Specific Section": Reminder of A

The generic section's B, C, and D still apply, even though they didn't feel the need to reprint them all.

Otherwise, as has been pointed out, the "general case" of B, C, and D doesn't apply to anything, since each "specific section" reminds you about A.