Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
I think it's pretty clear the goal of that art is to show the kinds of things adventurers in 1e commonly do. You know, going into dark dangerous places and taking valuable stuff from them.
D&D General Why Enworld should liberate D&D from Hasbro
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Micah Sweet
Level Up & OSR Enthusiast
True, but there's nothing good about getting invested in an game for decades and being told (over and over again it seems) that they used to care about you, but now they don't because you got old. Like they'd really like you to shuffle off so they can continue to market to the kids without your interference.
Thanks and goodbye. It really does feel like that sometimes.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
They have a ton of LGBT players and customers and many more who support the LGBT community. They're posting art reflecting their audience and folks their audience like.
Why wouldn't they post this?
I personally think that we'll still have popular editions of D&D published over the next two decades and the game will be fine. The OGL and CC license ensure that there will ALWAYS be a D&D.
I don't think it's guaranteed that it'll stay 'top dog' in terms of sales in the TTRPG world, though; but it's difficult at the moment to see that changing in the immediate term; it'd really require a new game to emerge that susumes a large amount of the D&D 5e audience - along with the audience for other TTRPGs.
There's more of a threat, I think, to 'officail' 5e products, in terms of WoTC and Hasbro making poor moves and general economic troubles in the US that could vastly affect WoTC - but that could happen to other companies.
IMO I think there is a possibility that Hasbro makes enough poor moves that it affects WoTC and that causes troubles for D&D 5e as a product, but if that were to occur, the community would step in without needing to own the rights.
I don't think it's guaranteed that it'll stay 'top dog' in terms of sales in the TTRPG world, though; but it's difficult at the moment to see that changing in the immediate term; it'd really require a new game to emerge that susumes a large amount of the D&D 5e audience - along with the audience for other TTRPGs.
There's more of a threat, I think, to 'officail' 5e products, in terms of WoTC and Hasbro making poor moves and general economic troubles in the US that could vastly affect WoTC - but that could happen to other companies.
IMO I think there is a possibility that Hasbro makes enough poor moves that it affects WoTC and that causes troubles for D&D 5e as a product, but if that were to occur, the community would step in without needing to own the rights.
Do you complain that Saturday morning cartoons aren’t made for 50 year olds too?
Are kids not allowed the stuff you had? Everything has to be made for whatever age you are at the time? You are the only person who matters and the world must cater specifically for you, forever? You bought a book from them once, and so they now have a life debt to you like they’re a Wookiee?
I have no sympathy for this position. I’m 51. I started playing D&D when I was 11. I am not bothered in the slightest that D&D has been marketed for teenagers since the 1970s. It was marketed towards me when I was 11. It is now marketed towards other people who are 11. And it is a trivial thing, of no effort, to set the tone of your own game however you want it. It's literally no effort.
Man, 50 year-old men whining "me me me!" when children are allowed to have things is so cringey. 6-year olds think the world revolves around them; grown-ups know better. You're a big boy now. Put your big boy pants on and let the kids have their things. Y'know, like grown-ups do.
(Also “they” never cared about you, “they” don’t care about you now, “they” don’t care about the kids either; you’re clever enough to know this).
Thomas Shey
Legend
I think I'd argue it was largely marketed at 20-somethings in the 70's, but that's not probably a significant difference.
Thomas Shey
Legend
On some level, if they were being honest, that's probably what it is.
cbwjm
Legend
Sooo, has @MichaelSomething account been hacked or is this how they normally post?
As is, in 20 years I'll probably be dead or senile, not sure I'll care what's happening to DnD.
As is, in 20 years I'll probably be dead or senile, not sure I'll care what's happening to DnD.
Thomas Shey
Legend
This is more extensive than I've seen them do before, but it wouldn't be the first time they've done deadpan irony.
Remathilis
Legend
Here's the thing about fandom. You either go with it or you bow out. I was a huge Star Wars fan but the sequel trilogy left a bitter enough taste in my mouth that when it was said and done, I had less interest in following the new projects with the gusto I had a decade ago. I accept that the new stuff isn't my cup of tea and while I don't hate some of the new stuff like the Mandelorian, I don't engage with it the way I did before.
What I don't do is go on every Star Wars based social media or discussion group and lament how Star Wars fired me as a fan, refuse to cater to the diehard OT fans, changed canon to remove much of the old Expanded Universe and openly wish every future project fails so that Disney sells the property to some fans who will return it to it's glory days.
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