Why the beer hate? (Forked Thread: What are the no-goes...)

[Jeff Wilder]

Unless, again, you're quibbling about what it means to be "hard." For my purposes, if it's illegal, it's hard.

It's not quibbling. Your definition of hard drugs is off. (At least for standard usage. In your own head, of course, it can mean whatever you want it to mean.)

From this dictionary of contemporary English: "very strong illegal drugs such as heroin and cocaine."

And "soft drug" (which is a term not often used, as it's pretty much only what's left after "hard drug": "an illegal drug such marijuana that is not considered to be very harmful."

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Technically, marijuana is a hell of a lot safer than alcohol.
However...
In my region hash is cut with everything under the sun including plastic bin liners (that is not some silly scare story, I don't use it but others do).
And smoking it with tobacco is obviously a damned no brainer (and research shows the combination is especially bad for your lungs).
Rather folk were toked out peacable, than smashing their spouses up etc when drunk.

Booze is bad not just for addiction and violence problems, but from toxicity and the "D.T.s" which are extremely dangerous...."Oops, you rolled a 1, dude!"

Drugs = poisons, use 'em carefully and with good reason, or suffer. Common sense, ain't it?
much rather play D&D

 

[Scribble]

can we please stop claiming that beer in moderation is bad for you, or that it should be labeled a toxin, or that it should be looked on as less healthy than Soda (which has no such studies backing it as healthy)?

Just the opposite actually- Soda has been linked to a number of negative health concerns including cancer (with the brown colas.)

 

[Mistwell]

If you said you'd make sure nobody over-indulged, and that you were prepared to deal with anybody making trouble, I would be willing to show up after the BBQ for the game session.

Ah. Finally, I think I am starting to understand your perspective.

Please correct me if I am misconstruing your position. You don't actually mind that people you game with drink per se. And you don't mind if people who drink and become obnoxious from it are dealt with by someone else. It's that you mind having to personally deal with people who become obnoxious from drinking, and in your games it's likely the task of dealing with the trouble would fall to you. It's the confrontation with an obnoxious drunkard that bothers you ...not the drinking or alcohol or even the drinkers. Is that a fair representation of your contention?

 

[Jeff Wilder]

Just the opposite actually- Soda has been linked to a number of negative health concerns including cancer (with the brown colas.)

"To get back to the warning that I received. You may take it with however many grains of salt that you wish. That the brown soda that is circulating around us isn't too good. It is suggested that you stay away from that. Of course it's your own beverage. So be my guest, but please be advised that there is a warning on that one, ok?"

(I wonder if I need to provide an attribution on this?)

 

[rogueattorney]

Just the opposite actually- Soda has been linked to a number of negative health concerns including cancer (with the brown colas.)

Yes. By pretty much any measure you want to use, it's healthier to drink three bottles of beer during the game session than three bottles of the sugary soda pop of your choice. Further, there's not enough alcohol in those beers to alter the behavior of anyone beyond the legal drinking age in the slightest.

Again, people can do whatever they want at their own tables. I just find it to be a very weird hang up.

As to drugs... The illegality is a very big deal. 30 somethings with a spouse, kids, and careers do not need to have people bringing drugs into their house or to go to houses with drugs.

 

[Desdichado]

It's not quibbling. Your definition of hard drugs is off.

Yeah, it's quibbling. Although, since you were one of the ones who mentioned them upthread, it's not surprising that you'd rather pedantically try to quibble about it.

 

[Obryn]

As to drugs... The illegality is a very big deal. 30 somethings with a spouse, kids, and careers do not need to have people bringing drugs into their house or to go to houses with drugs.

Yep. My days of drinking with underage folks and smoking non-tobacco vegetation basically stopped when I had to be a responsible adult - more or less when I stopped thinking about my work as a job and switched to thinking of it as my career. It's not that I think any of the above are immoral or icky - I just can't risk it nowadays, with a mortgage and a family and a dog and a cat. Not only can't I afford it, but I really couldn't afford that sort of legal trouble, you know?

-O

 

[Andor]

Yes. By pretty much any measure you want to use, it's healthier to drink three bottles of beer during the game session than three bottles of the sugary soda pop of your choice. Further, there's not enough alcohol in those beers to alter the behavior of anyone beyond the legal drinking age in the slightest.

Unless you got to the game on a motorcycle. The statistics regarding alchohol and motorcycles (especially for road legal BAC levels) are terrifying.

Which is a shame as I like both beer and motorcycles, but they don't mix well.

We now return you to your regualrly scheduled thread.

 

[malraux]

Yep. My days of drinking with underage folks and smoking non-tobacco vegetation basically stopped when I had to be a responsible adult - more or less when I stopped thinking about my work as a job and switched to thinking of it as my career. It's not that I think any of the above are immoral or icky - I just can't risk it nowadays, with a mortgage and a family and a dog and a cat. Not only can't I afford it, but I really couldn't afford that sort of legal trouble, you know?

-O

Yeah, regardless of my personal feelings on the other intoxicants, their mere presence at the game table affects me. It could put me in jail, get the government to seize my house, etc.