Why won't you switch?

[Rauol_Duke]

But the number of threads debating why one should/should not switch has gotten out of hand. Every couple days we have a new one.

But this isn't a thread about why one should/shouldn't switch - it's a thread about why we aren't switching.

 

[Psion]

Oh, I mostly don't participate in threads that don't interest me (Hence my really low post count). But the number of threads debating why one should/should not switch has gotten out of hand. Every couple days we have a new one.

(shrug) I don't come by the 4e forum every day; on those occasions that I do, I'm more interested in current discussion that thread necromancy.

Aside from which, a lot of the overwrought frothing that characterized some earlier threads is a lot more subdued of late (whether that's exhaustion or banning to thank for that, I don't know), and people may have shifted positions and attitudes as they see more about the game and folks discuss things with their groups get a better feel about what the game has to offer them. I think its fair to say this topic is "alive".

 

[Desdichado]

I think its fair to say this topic is "alive".

Please tell me you said that in a mad scientist voice.

 

[Scarbonac]

But this isn't a thread about why one should/shouldn't switch - it's a thread about why we aren't switching.

Damn straight.

 

[Old Gumphrey]

Isn't there some conspiracy theory that the whole "New Coke" thing was really so they could change their formula for Coke from Sugar to High Fructose Corn Syrup and get away with it?

You know what's hilarious about that? HFCS is actually many orders of magnitude more damaging to your body than plain sugar.

 

[Greylock]

Side note: what's up with the topic gestapo? Thread drift happens folks!

This wasn't drift - it was absolute derailment, and pretty intentional. The first two pages, about 60-70 odd posts, were incredible. People were stating their minds, and getting a lot of things off their chests. Every new post had some new insight. I was recommending this thread to all my friends who just lurk ENWorld.

Then the thread-crappers came. The resulting arguments, from those who are switching and those who aren't, ruined what had been a fine, fine thread.

 

[Desdichado]

It's still a fine thread. :shrug:

 

[Aus_Snow]

Heh. Mad scientist voice. That worked for me. Why? No idea.

I may as well add to the list from before. Uh, of reasons, I mean.

* 4e seems, so far, to go down well with dedicated 'anti-simulationists' - so I ain't gonna like it
* M&M Yeah, holy grail, rabid fanboi. I'll stop it there.

 

[JediSoth]

Heh. I got my opinion crapped on two posts later on page 2.

It's OK, though. I'm used to having my opinions and feeling about 4E crapped on. It's just another reason why I'm not switching. I don't appreciate the "Wrong-Bad-Fun" attitude I get when I put forth an opinion that doesn't kiss 4E's collective butt.

I still lurk 'cause I'm interested in knowing what 4E is going to be about, even though it is very likely I will sit this edition out (if for no other reason than all the players and writers that are hating on 3.5 and the people who still like it after the 4E announcement). I just think it's silly that people think you're irrational for being reluctant to get excited about something that isn't printed yet, but it's perfectly OK, expected and you darn well better be excited about something that isn't printed yet because 3.5 sucked.

A lot of people that posted after me added a lot of things that I agree and forgot about (like paladin abilities that activate with certain types of hits and affecting your whole party) with as reason why I won't be switching (bleeding triggering abilities). I even learned a few things that made me want to switch even less (no more Professional skills? That was a keystone of my last Ptolus campaign!). I was pleased when this thread came up because you couldn't post anything negative in a 4E thread without having half-a-dozen people jump down your throat. I mean, honestly, it's just a game. No game is perfect (except Paranoia 2nd edition, 'cause The Computer said so).

There are a few things 4E will do (or I hope will do) that I'm interested in, like changes to undead and turning.

Buy Mexican Coke. It uses sugar. Send a message to the suits that we want REAL sugar (heck, I'd even pay extra for it).

JediSoth

 

[Celebrim]

Buy Mexican Coke. It uses sugar. Send a message to the suits that we want REAL sugar (heck, I'd even pay extra for it).

Don't bother the corporate suits. It's not thier fault. The reason American coke doesn't use sugar is that Congress imposed a high import tarrif on foreign sugar to protect a tiny handful of sugar cane farmers in Louisiana scraping up a tiny crop in climate poorly suited for cane production from going out of business. As a result, many American candy manufacturers went out of business or moved thier factories to Mexico, and Americans pay the highest prices for sugar in the world and all of our processed food is stuffed with HFCS.