Will the end of Game of Thrones keep you away from House of Dragons?


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Orius

Hero
It's actually the sexual violence of GoT that's keeping me away from the new show. I'm just not interested in putting that kind of stuff into my brain right now.

The "murder porn" was what had me drop off watching GoT, long before it was over.

That's another thing that keeps me away. The books themselves have a reputation for gratuitous sex, and that doesn't impress me. It's not the sex itself that's a problem, I'm not bothered by erotica. But gratuitous sex kind of screams, "Look, I did a sex scene, look how sophisticated I am!" to me and I am seldom impressed.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
That's another thing that keeps me away. The books themselves have a reputation for gratuitous sex, and that doesn't impress me. It's not the sex itself that's a problem, I'm not bothered by erotica. But gratuitous sex kind of screams, "Look, I did a sex scene, look how sophisticated I am!" to me and I am seldom impressed.
I recall Dean Koontz commenting in am interview that he did sex scenes in his books, until he realized that he wouldn't write a gratitous bathroom scene the same way. Usually thst stuff manages to be uninteresting on any level. Song of Ice and Fure was nit an exception. Personally, I tend to forget sex scenes in books, which has created awkward conversations after book recommendations.
 

payn

Legend
That's another thing that keeps me away. The books themselves have a reputation for gratuitous sex, and that doesn't impress me. It's not the sex itself that's a problem, I'm not bothered by erotica. But gratuitous sex kind of screams, "Look, I did a sex scene, look how sophisticated I am!" to me and I am seldom impressed.
Honestly, most of the time the literature had exposition and/or character interactions within the sex scenes. There is a few scenes that dont make sense as to their inclusion, but overall its few and far between. I think the show has far more gratuitous sex than the literature.
 


Zaukrie

New Publisher
Not in the least. I just don't want sexual violence or any on screen torture. We skipped thru those parts.... The first episode looked great, no idea how I feel about the story yet. I am already more interested in the characters than anyone in Strange New Worlds....
 

Same. I think that the way we understand and relate to our fictions has changed over time, and that sort of egregious violence is not something I want to see either. It makes me wonder how people will react if GRRM ever finishes Winds of Winter and his writing hasn't evolved as well.

Not in the least. I just don't want sexual violence or any on screen torture. We skipped thru those parts.... The first episode looked great, no idea how I feel about the story yet. I am already more interested in the characters than anyone in Strange New Worlds....

The end of GoT didn't keep me away from HotD. If anything, it made me more curious...could HBO manage to reclaim the public's goodwill after the ending of GoT? Which, judging from the reports on viewership coming out, they have.

It's going with a slow burn and set-up in the first episode, but I'm digging it.
 

Zaukrie

New Publisher
Same. I think that the way we understand and relate to our fictions has changed over time, and that sort of egregious violence is not something I want to see either. It makes me wonder how people will react if GRRM ever finishes Winds of Winter and his writing hasn't evolved as well.



The end of GoT didn't keep me away from HotD. If anything, it made me more curious...could HBO manage to reclaim the public's goodwill after the ending of GoT? Which, judging from the reports on viewership coming out, they have.

It's going with a slow burn and set-up in the first episode, but I'm digging it.
I doubt I'll read another book, if he writes one. I just don't need the violence descriptions anymore. I've gotten to the point where more than a few people I know were at years ago, I guess.
 

Dausuul

Legend
The ending of GoT ruined my hype for this new series, I didn't even realize it was out yet....whereas before I probably would have been checking the internet religiously looking for any scrap of news I could find.

So I'll wait. Now if the reception is good, I'll watch it. I'm not going to "boycott it" just because of the horrific mishandling of the previous shows last season. But its got to earn it for me, whereas without that last season, I probably would have watched it day 1 sight unseen.
Yep, this is about where I am. If I hear it's really good, I'll check it out. But I'm not tuned in to it the way I am with, say, "Rings of Power."
 

jolt

Adventurer
To answer the OP question, no, it won't stop me from watching. HBO had very limited rights to make up their own stuff for the show. That was fine until you got to the point where the show caught up to the books. HBO's contracts with the actors didn't allow them to delay so they had to go with what they had. What they had was some pages of hastily compiled notes from George (George was contractually obligated to provide material - when the show first started, it apparently didn't occur to him that he would be so far behind). So HBO ran with the little material they had and turned out a crappy final season. There wasn't really anything else they could have done though.

Green Ronin dropped the rpg for the same reason. George insisted on reviewing all material personally. GR would give him the drafts and says they needed it back within 6 months to make their production queue. Six months later they'd call George only to find out that he hadn't looked at it at all. Eventually, they just said, "Screw it", dropped the license and re-released the rpg with the GoT serial numbers filed off.

Personally, I think doing a prequel was the right idea. We already know how the world ends up so there's less chance of George's "quirks" derailing 7 years of production.
 

Dausuul

Legend
COUGH!SupernaturalCOUGH!
What do you mean? Supernatural ran for five seasons and wrapped things up in an epic if tragic finale. It was a beautiful example of how to stick the landing for a multi-year story arc.

I heard something about a fanfic version that tried to continue the story after season 5, but I can't imagine that went anywhere.
 
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Yep, this is about where I am. If I hear it's really good, I'll check it out. But I'm not tuned in to it the way I am with, say, "Rings of Power."
I am shocked at how interested I am in Rings of Power, considering I find in-depth Lord of the Rings lore prior to the Third Age to very much be not my thing.

And while I am not quite where others are on the violence in GRRM's stories, I may be getting there. I've been exposed to a lot of it in real life in the last 10 years and recent events (not happening to me) have shown that all of this is adding up, mental health-wise.
 

I've no idea yet what I'll do. It's hard to maintain enthusiasm after, what 11 years and counting? And in a world with dragons, undead, and magic, the excuse that "history was misogynistic" run increasingly thin for all the violence against women. And I've grown away from doorstopper fantasies. I don't want to spend a 3-4 weeks reading a single book.

But I was also a big fan of the series when I first started reading it over two decades ago.

I doubt I'll read another book, if he writes one. I just don't need the violence descriptions anymore. I've gotten to the point where more than a few people I know were at years ago, I guess.

I suppose it makes sense that he'd procrastinate about other things, too. I can't imagine how frustrating it must have been for Green Ronin to deal with that.

Green Ronin dropped the rpg for the same reason. George insisted on reviewing all material personally. GR would give him the drafts and says they needed it back within 6 months to make their production queue. Six months later they'd call George only to find out that he hadn't looked at it at all. Eventually, they just said, "Screw it", dropped the license and re-released the rpg with the GoT serial numbers filed off.

Personally, I think doing a prequel was the right idea. We already know how the world ends up so there's less chance of George's "quirks" derailing 7 years of production.
 




nevin

Hero
I'll be watching House of Dragons tonight (although in my head, I will call it "Game of Dragons" until I die).

My wife and I watched Game of Thrones from almost the beginning (I think we caught up about half a season in) and watched it all the way to the bitter end, which we both felt really suffered in the writing department, especially structurally. (You can't stay subtle with "this girl might actually be a brutal dictator, even if she's mostly been brutal to bad folks so far" as you approach the endgame and the final coronation scene needed a lot more work shopping.)

But I think the new series looks good and am willing to give at least the first episode a go. (And the reviews for it are pretty good, which helps.)

My wife will NOT be watching the new show and would like very much for me to be elsewhere in the house when I watch it.

How about you? If you felt burned by the end of GoT, is that keeping you away from HoD? (I will not be calling it "Hot D," no matter how many times GRRM refers to it that way. That feels needlessly horny, even for Westeros.)
i won't be watching it because it'll just be another few years of one easily preventable disaster after another. It was entertaining at first but now GOT is just a chore i choose not to do.
 

i won't be watching it because it'll just be another few years of one easily preventable disaster after another. It was entertaining at first but now GOT is just a chore i choose not to do.
So far, it looks like Westeros history would be very different if someone just listened to an estate planning attorney and made some changes to succession law.
 



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