D&D 5E Will you continue to give WotC D&D your $$$

[Jahydin]

Free League make RPGs for adults. The themes, art and writing are designed for adults to do in-depth and morally complex roleplaying. Path Finder and D&D are pitched at 13 year old boys. The art is cartoonish, the morality is black and white and the rules are combat focussed.

I couldn't help but read this in the Comic Book Guy's voice...

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I couldn't help but read this in the Comic Book Guy's voice...

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up." - C.S. Lewis

Oh my god right?

It's just classic '90s discourse "I read grown-up comic books like Spawn! You keep reading your kiddy Spider-Man!".

 

[David Britten]

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[Ruin Explorer]

I want complexity and high art, I don't want to live in a state of perpetual arrested development.

Still sounds like Comic Book Guy to me, or any number of flame-warriors from the '90s who were very keen to sneer at RPGs other than their chosen one, without apparently realizing the impression that they were giving about that game.

 

[David Britten]

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[Aldarc]

Free League make RPGs for adults. The themes, art and writing are designed for adults to do in-depth and morally complex roleplaying. Path Finder and D&D are pitched at 13 year old boys. The art is cartoonish, the morality is black and white and the rules are combat focussed.

I'm from Glasgow so hear Shrek's voice for more accuracy
I have no desire to return to my childhood or explore childlike experiences. I'm 50 years old. I want complexity and high art, I don't want to live in a state of perpetual arrested development. Why can't I have products pitched at the older gamer. Why do we all have to live in the mass market youth obsessed gaming sphere?

Despite what you may believe, you aren't exactly playing high art games pitched at adults by picking Free League games. Based upon the manufacturer suggested rating of 14+ for most of their games,* that makes you a 50-year-old playing a game pitched at 14-year-old kids. Hardly an upgrade in maturity as far as even Free League is concerned. But what do I know? Maybe it takes Glaswegians 50 years to be as mature as 14-year-olds elsewhere in the world.

* Tales from the Loop's manufacturer suggested age is for 11 to 15 year olds.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Who's flaming anyone? So we all have to want your style of gaming or we're anti-gaming? Be serious.

You're flaming LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO PLAYS D&D lol!

That's what, 30 million people?

I don't want to live in a state of perpetual arrested development.

Buddy, that's flaming.

Free League make RPGs for adults. The themes, art and writing are designed for adults to do in-depth and morally complex roleplaying. Path Finder and D&D are pitched at 13 year old boys. The art is cartoonish, the morality is black and white and the rules are combat focussed.

That's an atomic-grade flame.

The only reason this isn't a flamewar is that we're adults and this is utterly laughable and deeply '90s (in the WORST way possible lol) approach you're taking.

Why can't I have products pitched at the older gamer.

Free League's products aren't aimed there particularly. Some of them are even aimed at kids.

 

[David Britten]

You're flaming LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO PLAYS D&D lol!

I play D&D. Never said I didn't. Played it since 1981. I just said I didn't like the art work and the level the game is pitched at. I don't know what you are trying to achieve with this?

 

[David Britten]

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[Aldarc]

I don't know what you are trying to achieve with this? Seems you are rather fragile about your identity and are taking it out on others.

Hardly. My aims are simple and transparent. I'm pointing out that your asserted opinions about the appropriate maturity level of the products do not necessarily align with the publisher's own suggested ages for the products.

• Pathfinder 2 is recommended for ages 13 and up, though Amazon posts the reading age as 16+
• Forbidden Lands, Vaesen, and Alien are all recommended for ages 14 and up

At the end of the day, you are quibbling about the maturity level of games written for teenagers to buy and play.