Will you laugh or cry at the gnomes' good-bye party?

Waving gnomes bye-bye from the PHB...

  • I'll miss 'em

    Votes: 89 41.2%
  • Good riddance

    Votes: 76 35.2%
  • (third polling option)

    Votes: 51 23.6%

frankthedm said:
Yep, my non-tolerance for whimsy is a big part of my dislike of them.

Too bad... I find that whimsy is some of the most fun parts of our sessions. :D I forgot to also mention that we have a gnome sorceror in our current campaign with a sharp, quirky sense of humor who is also awesome.

Ah, well. I doubt my group will want to switch to 4e unless it incorporates some of our preferences (which so far it doesn't seem to), so I'm not especially concerned about it anyway.
 

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Actually since I'm not going to go over to 4e (I like 3.X, what can I say?) Gnomes will still be there. And I'll still have fun getting the local ogres to ram them on long spears and eat them like shish-kebab.
 


DrunkonDuty said:
Actually since I'm not going to go over to 4e (I like 3.X, what can I say?) Gnomes will still be there. And I'll still have fun getting the local ogres to ram them on long spears and eat them like gnome-kebab.
fify. :p
 

Option 3. I bear them no ill will - I just don't care enough about them (and never did) for their removal to matter to me whatsoever. At least the new races will be something DIFFERENT to ignore at worst, and at best won't be such a waste of space from my personal perspective.
 

Option 3. I won't care much because I'll still be DMing and playing 3.0 (and, when I must to please the other group, 3.5) where gnomes are still around and making all the other races look like chumps.
 

I remain indifferent, it will be weird that they won't be in there anymore, but I'm sure they'll replace it with something that I will ignore and never use. Just like I ignored and never used Gnomes. No offence to those of used them heavily or enjoy them a lot.
 

Hi
I really don't see the point of leaving the gnomes out of the PHB. They've been part of the game for many years. We've seen on these boards that folks who didn't care for them didn't use them, but many people like them and do use them. Oh well, what do I know?
:)
 

I really didn't like the conversion of the gnome from 2nd to 3rd edition. A gnome is a nerd that you should fear and it's hillarious that when they become able to be full wizard's they are nerfed from the favorite class and changed to of all things bard.
Gnomes for me are covered into the following archtypes
1. evil little men who do horrid things and skulk in the dark of the night.
2. nature spirits who hang out in the woods and smoke cheap drugs.
3. earth elemental like beings (as in the alchemical tradition)
4. nerds of magic and technology that are to be feared.
5. tricksters

Maybe it's the color text, but the 3rd edition gnome bugs the heck out of me. they sorta filled in 1 (whisper gnomes), 2(forest gnomes) and 3 (svirneblin), but the standard rock gnome doesn't do it for me (even thought it roughly fits 5). In my opinion the arcane gnome should have been the default and wizard should have been the preferred class. The elf should have been switched to sorceror as preferred class to reflect their innate force of magic. It also plays nicely off their antipathy of kobolds (who have a preferred class of sorceror).

There is this one gnome article in dragon magazine that I wish they would have cribbed from for races of stone for the gnome section. It would have made them more suitable to what I think a gnome should be.

perhaps holding them for a later book will allow greater development and make them awesome.

btw loved the phrase: tinker style, goggle wearing, full metal alchemists.. It really summed it up as a whole.
 

Spell Description: Combination of Invisibility and Forget
Area of Effect: Racial (Special)

A entire race that thrives on magic and setting up pranks..
I don't count them out.
 

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