Willow - Official Teaser Trailer

[Paul Farquhar]

"Face it Willow, you were never much of a sorcerer."

Multiclass: Artificer

 

[Zaukrie]

We thought that might have been the best episode so far. I guess since she never uses the bow, she may as well drop it and leave it. Stupidest characters ever

 

[MarkB]

We thought that might have been the best episode so far. I guess since she never uses the bow, she may as well drop it and leave it. Stupidest characters ever

Nobody likes having to track ammunition.

 

[Ryujin]

We thought that might have been the best episode so far. I guess since she never uses the bow, she may as well drop it and leave it. Stupidest characters ever

Unfortunately, people in fantasy drop weapons in the same sort of way that they cut rope.

 

[Zaukrie]

That was more of a comment on how she never actually used her bow. But, wow, their tactics are awful also. And, in a rare moment of me pointing out good continuity, it appeared she was not carrying her bow later in the show.

 

[Dire Bare]

This week's episode had an absolutely dreadful start. Just terrible. In media res is fine in principle, but when that media is Scooby Doo, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.

The episode starting in the middle of the action worked for me. Scooby Doo?

I dunno. This episode was kinda bad to me. From the (IMO) inappropriate use of modern songs, the plot-convenience cameo of Rool, Willow and Graydon escaping in some unseen manner (really, did I miss something?), the Bone Reavers' dizzying turn to be a bunch of chaotic good freedom fighters (neglecting that they straight-up murdered the elder guardsman escorting the quest in episode 2), and just general time wasting in this episode.

They've used covers of modern songs in every episode! You just noticed? For me, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

I enjoyed this episode quite a bit, but yeah, the various escapes and recaptures, then the switch to the "welcome home" party, left some gaps in the narrative. The idea that the bone reavers aren't insane, crazy servants of evil, but instead cultivate that image in their struggle against the "good" kingdom . . . it's a fine idea, but doesn't work that well in the context of the show, as the "good" kingdom isn't portrayed with a lot of nuance, and yes the bone reavers switch from being portrayed as scary reavers to happy forest folk too quickly, and again without nuance.

The show is light-hearted fantasy fare, and I'm willing to forgive these plot issues, but there they are. I'm glade Jade (Erin Kellyman) got in a decent fight this episode! And, the snappy one-liners are still killing me!

 

[MarkB]

The episode starting in the middle of the action worked for me. Scooby Doo?

Lots of comedy running around, being chased by tough-looking villains who never actually catch up, hiding in plain sight to have a conversation while the enemies inexplicably lose them for a couple of minutes. It didn't quite have them running in and out of a bunch of different doors down a corridor, but the sentiment was there.

They've used covers of modern songs in every episode! You just noticed? For me, sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

They've mostly used them as an outro over the end credits, which is fine. This one was used over the action, and poorly - somehow both the in-world sounds and the music managed to drown each other out in equal measure.

I enjoyed this episode quite a bit, but yeah, the various escapes and recaptures, then the switch to the "welcome home" party, left some gaps in the narrative. The idea that the bone reavers aren't insane, crazy servants of evil, but instead cultivate that image in their struggle against the "good" kingdom . . . it's a fine idea, but doesn't work that well in the context of the show, as the "good" kingdom isn't portrayed with a lot of nuance, and yes the bone reavers switch from being portrayed as scary reavers to happy forest folk too quickly, and again without nuance.

And they still have that extensive skull collection, which I'm guessing they didn't acquire through trade or scavenging.

The show is light-hearted fantasy fare, and I'm willing to forgive these plot issues, but there they are. I'm glade Jade (Erin Kellyman) got in a decent fight this episode! And, the snappy one-liners are still killing me!

Yeah, those are most of what's sustaining the show for me at this point. I do like the characters, I just wish I could also respect them.

 

[Zaukrie]

We didn't mind the modern music at all. I don't get the issue. This is super light-hearted fare, not LotR or Shadow and Bone.

I like the idea they are freedom fighters, don't love the execution. But that's the whole show for me so far, great ideas, ok execution.

 

[MarkB]

We didn't mind the modern music at all. I don't get the issue. This is super light-hearted fare, not LotR or Shadow and Bone.

I've no objection to the use of modern music, I just thought it was poorly executed. Compare this scene to a similar tune in Shrek (action starts at 1:30):

The action is edited around the soundtrack, the audio balance lets you hear the music clearly without obscuring the in-world sounds, and it wraps up neatly on the end of a verse instead of just fading out. Admittedly all easier in animation, but could still have been done a lot more competently here.

 

[Ryujin]

I've no objection to the use of modern music, I just thought it was poorly executed. Compare this scene to a similar tune in Shrek (action starts at 1:30):

The action is edited around the soundtrack, the audio balance lets you hear the music clearly without obscuring the in-world sounds, and it wraps up neatly on the end of a verse instead of just fading out. Admittedly all easier in animation, but could still have been done a lot more competently here.

I would tend to agree on the use of modern music in Willow. It's like someone took the "A Knight's Tale" masterclass, but failed. Still, I'm enjoying the show overall.