WoT Book 11: Knife of Dreams
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Bran Blackbyrd
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Oh, a few more likes and dislikes.
Disliked...
1: The lack of Aviendha material in this book is absolutely criminal.
2: After 10 books they finally decided to change the design of the (US) hardback covers? Great, that doesn't look out of place on my shelf. Instead of the title and author being printed small, horizontally and at the top of the spine they're written in huge letters vertically along the spine.
Liked...
1: At least the new spine layout obscures Sweet's 'artwork' a little.
Disliked...
1: The lack of Aviendha material in this book is absolutely criminal.
2: After 10 books they finally decided to change the design of the (US) hardback covers? Great, that doesn't look out of place on my shelf. Instead of the title and author being printed small, horizontally and at the top of the spine they're written in huge letters vertically along the spine.
Liked...
1: At least the new spine layout obscures Sweet's 'artwork' a little.
Roadkill101
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I'm a huge WoT fan. Of the books that is, don't care too much for the D20 campaign. I've read through the entire series many times, because when a new release is scheduled I begin with book one all over again (which is badly falling apart now), and partly because I need something to read while waiting on one of several favorite authors to release something new. And then reread the current latest release through at least another two times by itself.
This is the first time, I've not actually reread the series prior to a new release, but i've been busy reading a lot books from the library lately.
I almost put the first book down because it seemed to start off so slowly (when compared to faster action paced stories of the sci-fi/fantasy genre). In hindsight as a gamer, I now really appreciate the slow start as a good example of how to build a campaign around 0 level characters.
All but the first two books I have in hardback. My copy of Fires of Heaven is signed by Jordan (my cousin bought it at a book signing and read it before I had purchased it and he just gave it to me).
I've yet to buy Knife of Dreams, mostly because I haven't been paying attention to the date. Maybe I'll get it tomorrow as I just got my paycheck.
I wish I could remember the site (to provide a link, it's been several months since having seen it) where Jordan explains why he has so many sub-plots, that cause the slow down of the story. The explanations puts it into a better perspective, making it more tolerable, though the sub-plots and slow down of the main plots have never bothered me personally (and having said that, I could care less how many books the series takes up, beit the stated twelve or a possible twenty, to finish, so long as it does get finished).
The only real complaint I have about the series is the (rather blatant) Men are from Mars, Women from Venus gender biasing where neither gender understands the motivations and actions of the other. There are better ways for a writer to show a character who is either ignorant of or prejudiced towards the opposite sex. This is one thing he should've stopped including around book three (IMO).
This is the first time, I've not actually reread the series prior to a new release, but i've been busy reading a lot books from the library lately.
I almost put the first book down because it seemed to start off so slowly (when compared to faster action paced stories of the sci-fi/fantasy genre). In hindsight as a gamer, I now really appreciate the slow start as a good example of how to build a campaign around 0 level characters.
All but the first two books I have in hardback. My copy of Fires of Heaven is signed by Jordan (my cousin bought it at a book signing and read it before I had purchased it and he just gave it to me).
I've yet to buy Knife of Dreams, mostly because I haven't been paying attention to the date. Maybe I'll get it tomorrow as I just got my paycheck.
I wish I could remember the site (to provide a link, it's been several months since having seen it) where Jordan explains why he has so many sub-plots, that cause the slow down of the story. The explanations puts it into a better perspective, making it more tolerable, though the sub-plots and slow down of the main plots have never bothered me personally (and having said that, I could care less how many books the series takes up, beit the stated twelve or a possible twenty, to finish, so long as it does get finished).
The only real complaint I have about the series is the (rather blatant) Men are from Mars, Women from Venus gender biasing where neither gender understands the motivations and actions of the other. There are better ways for a writer to show a character who is either ignorant of or prejudiced towards the opposite sex. This is one thing he should've stopped including around book three (IMO).
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iwatt
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Rackhir said:
LOL
I would have said that was a harsh judgement until after I finished book 10
. I've been rereading this series in preparation for KoD. Reading the Shadow Rising took me about a day in a half (weekend). The Fires of Heaven one day (sick in bed). CoT..... about a month , I kid you not.But I'm a fan. The fact that I keep been entertained by re-reading Jordan's books (and I'm not the only one) means he's doing something right.
Bran Blackbyrd
Explorer
Roadkill101 said:
Absolutely! This was exactly what I went for when I started planning my campaign world. The PCs (with a few exceptions) all started out as teenagers just becoming their culture's version of legal adults. 0 level peons about to get rudely awakened by the Real World outside their sheltered village.
Unfortunately some of the slow build-up had to be sacrificed in the interest of getting a few sessions in before people moved away/left for college.
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ShadowDenizen
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WOW!
I admire your decication, Roadkill.
After Book 5, I opted to stop reading the books as they come out, and decidedd that when the final book comes out, I'll try to trudge through the entire series at once. I have too many other books and DVD's to be re-reading something of that magnitude.
iwatt said:LOL
I would have said that was a harsh judgement until after I finished book 10
But I'm a fan. The fact that I keep been entertained by re-reading Jordan's books (and I'm not the only one) means he's doing something right.
Well stuff does actually happen in the last 200 pages or so, though not quite as much as I'd been expecting. Personally I'm glad I read it at the book store rather than spending the money for it.
ShadowDenizen said:
KoD's actually the only book that I didn't do a complete re-read in advance of (though I started the series about the time Lord of Chaos came out), and that's mostly because I started too late (and also because I really disliked Crossroads of Twilight, so I didn't want it to be the last Wheel of Time in my mind for very long), and was only a few hundred pages into Lord of Chaos when my copy showed up. I'm still going to finish the re-read, though; I'll take another stab at KoD when I'm done (mostly to make notes for my Power Strengths page).
Orius
Hero
Roadkill101 said:
Isn't that the truth. In the first book, the characters pretty much run from most of the threats they face. As you progress through the series, though they get better and better at facing threats. You see Rand, Mat and Perrin fighting of Trollocs more often, and by Book 5, they're starting to whack Myrrdraal without breaking much of a sweat.
You got the same thing happening with the girls, particularly when we're presented with Egwene's POV. In the first book, she can barely sense the Source. As the series progresses, we see her becoming more powerful and capable.
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