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[Mind of tempest]

That’s a fairly common misconception, but it’s actually not true. Kobold Press produces a number of non-Midgard products aimed at ALL D&D players each year.

Products like Deep Magic, Tome of Heroes, Vault of Magic, all of the Tome of Beasts books, etc are ALL ‘generic’ 5E D&D releases that are not related to Midgard at all.

they are related to midgard and its other places but they are fairly universalisable.

 

[Marc Radle]

they are related to midgard and its other places but they are fairly universalisable.

That’s part of that misconception though. The books listed above are NOT related to Midagard at all. They are completely standard, generic D&D.

 

[Mind of tempest]

That’s part of that misconception though. The books listed above are NOT related to Midagard at all. They are completely standard, generic D&D.

you call the animal lord basic dnd?

 

[Micah Sweet]

It's just, what does sexual assault add to a game that regular, non-sexual violence doesn't?

Pathos, in the case of Tanis and others with that background.

 

[Micah Sweet]

DnD is a game you should be comfortable handing to a 13 to 15 year old. Are you comfortable having cartoons aimed at pre-teens discussing sexual assault in them? Rape? Even as a background element?

AGAIN, the root of this discussion was pointing out that an official setting, which focused on sexual assault, was taken out/altered. No one is saying you can't include it in your home game if you really really must. We are questioning why you feel like you really really must include sexual assault, but that's mostly because you and others keep insisting and trying to argue for its inclusion.

Well for one thing, I don't really think a horror game like Ravenloft should be marketed to 13 to 15 year olds. That being said, that was the age I was when I was first introduced to the Ravenloft setting, which as we've said included an NPC who perpetrated this sort of crime, and I don't recall being warped or damaged by its presence.

I was even younger when I first read Dragonlance, with the aforementioned Tanis background. Again, I don't recall being damaged by a main character being the product of rape.

 

[Scribe]

Pathos, in the case of Tanis and others with that background.

There's a difference between it being in a book, and it being at the table.

I would walk away from any table playing out when it was going to happen to Laurana, and I'd probably get in trouble with the DM trying to 'enact' it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

When I was 13/14 I had already read Hiroshima with full colour photos age 10/11 at middle school.

1992 we had holocaust videos in History class and eastern front. Books in our high school Library included Battle of Berlin including what the red army got up to. I turned 14 in 92. Also did classics at school.

Year before I started D&D.

I'm not saying it belongs in game but more what I was getting taught at school. 1991 aged 12 we covered apartheid in social studies.

1993 I was reading Wilber Smith aged 14/15.

So yeah 13 year olds are probably a bit more resilient than you think.

The school I work for has us teaching about the history of slavery and the treatment of Native Americans at the primary level (7-10 years old). It's not graphic, but the education system is not shying away from difficult topics.

 

[Micah Sweet]

you call the animal lord basic dnd?

The cat lord first appeared in the 1st ed Monster Manual II, to my recollection.

 

[Incenjucar]

The cat lord first appeared in the 1st ed Monster Manual II, to my recollection.

There was a Cat Lord comic book even.

 

[Bohandas]

Maybe WotC needs a Bernie Madoff or a Jeffrey Skilling