Dragonlance WotC Officially Confirms Takhisis and Tiamat Are The Same

It's been an issue in dispute for decades, over various editions of D&D, but WotC has officially confirmed that - at least in 5E - Dragonlance's Takhisis is, indeed, currently Tiamat. In previous editions, Tiamat has varied from being a big dragon to a minor goddess, while Takhisis has been a greater god on Krynn. At times they've been the same entity, and at others different entities. Today, WotC is putting its foot down and saying that Takhisis and Tiamat are, indeed, the same being.



Of course, this is not an opinion universally held. Dragonlance co-creator Margaret Weis emphatically stated that "TAKHISIS IS NOT TIAMAT, DAMN IT!"

Fizban's Treasuryof Dragons confirms that the beings echo across various settings.

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According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the...

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[DarkCrisis]

I feel like this conversation has been had before.

Much as I hate it (and the Great Wheel being forced on all settings, too), this shipped sailed in 2e long ago.

From Dragon Magazine #143

 

[wicked cool]

I never felt that Tiamat in the cartoon was a god

But it’s about time that this was settled. Curious if draconians will become close re monsters in d&d next etc. wotc you own it all so stop separating it

 

[dave2008]

in my own head I always imagine powerful immortals, titans (primordals) Demon/devil lords, fey lords and Gods are different but not enough so to matter

Yes, that is how I've done for a long time myself. I am happy to see that some part of the lore is going that way too.

 

[dave2008]

I never felt that Tiamat in the cartoon was a god

But it’s about time that this was settled. Curious if draconians will become close re monsters in d&d next etc. wotc you own it all so stop separating it

No, in the cartoon she is not depicted as a god. She is more similar to the 1e Monster Manual "Chromatic Dragon" version.

FYI, a true god does appear in one episode (Venger's master) and it was way more powerful than Venger or Dungeon Master.

 

[darjr]

What? Is there a TLDR on what this relationship is?

Edit, NM I read that as Takhisis lol

I made a small edit noting Takhisis in Dragonlance

 

[Umbran]

Because 5E Tiamat is a demon lord, per Descent into Avernus.

Mind you, in 5E, "demon lord" isn't a defined thing - one can probably safely presume that it means one is a lord of demons, but beyond that, it doesn't say much. Being a demon lord does not, so far, preclude also being a deity.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I made a small edit noting Takhisis is Dragonlance

Wait, Takhisis is Dragonlance?

I thought Dragonlance was lances, some dragons, and usually women wearing little or no pants, often in snow.

 

[darjr]

Wait, Takhisis is Dragonlance?

I thought Dragonlance was lances, some dragons, and usually women wearing little or no pants, often in snow.

Fine!

Another edit!

 

[Kai Lord]

Fine!

Another edit!

Uh oh, now you've done it:

TAKHISIS IS NOT DRAGONLANCE! DAMN IT!

 

[Vaalingrade]

Mind you, in 5E, "demon lord" isn't a defined thing - one can probably safely presume that it means one is a lord of demons, but beyond that, it doesn't say much. Being a demon lord does not, so far, preclude also being a deity.

Isn't one of the demon lords either an actual demon OR just a truly horrifying lack of hygiene on its level of the abyss and no one knows for sure?