Would blending rangers and barbarians fix what is wrong with barbarians?

[Ranger REG]

I'm not sacrificing the ranger class to make a better barbarian class.

 

[krunchyfrogg]

What's wrong with Barbs????

 

[buzz]

What's wrong with Barbs????

We still don't know! As far as I can tell, I think it's that the OP doesn't like their name.

 

[William drake]

We still don't know! As far as I can tell, I think it's that the OP doesn't like their name.

Did you even read my post...or any reply I gave to anyone who questioned my thought?

I have valid reasons why I think the class needs work, in my point of view: and my questions as of yet have not been answered. And I think barbarians could be better if it was, say, toned down a little, and given more to play with instead of just "hulk smash, I'm to stupid to do anything else." Sorry, that's not what barbarians are to me, and as I've seen in this, there are those like myself who think that the class needs to be tweaked a bit back into level with the others. Given a purpose, some Rp'ing guideline besides “I can't read, and probably don’t talk to well either and also, I can barely wipe my #&^ but I can kill stuff”

 

[William drake]

I'm not sacrificing the ranger class to make a better barbarian class.

You wouldn't have to, but like a Flow Chart, the two would start from the same group, and from there, the two would branch off into the differnt types of characters that one wished to play.

 

[William drake]

I was talking with my friend Takasi about this and we came to a realization that what would probably solve the problem would be to stripe the martial weapon abilities and set up 4 prestige classes, Archer, Two weapon fighter, Barbarous fighter and other type weapon user. These would be available at 5th level with specific feat requirements for each based the flavor per se.

Tracking would be available to anyone but at half value or something. Taking one of these prestige classes would give full value for tracking.

what would you do about the funny DR, and the Rage?

 

[William drake]

And isn't that what house rules are for?

If nothing else, this thread has opened my eyes to the intriguing possibility of a Barbarian/Ranger mix type class. Not to say that I would ever use it or not use it, just that it's an intriguing possibility.

I get rather amused (and annoyed, there I said it) at the preponderance of these types of "what's wrong with this and that in D&D" threads on EN World. As someone who has typically ranted ad nauseum on other sites (Maxminis, for one) it tends to get rather old after awhile. No disrespect intended to the OP, just my opinion.

This is not a rant, but a question which has been posed to me on several occasions. And yes, we are always allowed to question the rules of the games that we play. And no, not just in home-brew should these ideas get brought out, but to the public who may feel as we do. Also, some times there are mistakes, or things that the creators take back after once putting out an idea because they realize that there was another way, that what they did was to powerful, or didn’t quite match their intentions or wants of the public since this is the game we choose to play and can easily choose another.

Thank you.

 

[wildstarsreach]

what would you do about the funny DR, and the Rage?

Personally I get ride of that but the prestige class would be the one that gives the raging ability though I think that it should be toned down IMHO.

 

[khyron1144]

As a player, I've never found anything wrong with a barbarian.

They are the perfect PC class from my perspective:
Best hit die
Good skill points and skill selection
Full BAB
Full Martial Weapon proficiency
Fast Movement
Uncanny Dodge
Rage
Damage Reduction

It's the perfect package.

 

[Fishbone]

And they are bone simple to make and run as NPCs, too.
I don't like the arbitrary alignment restriction and would prefer that Rage simply be a mechanic and you make your own thematic name for it such as "The Zone" or "Adrenaline Surge" or "Combat Mode" or whatever. Other than some very minor flavor issues I have no problem with it. The only problem I have with the Ranger is that it should be considered level -3 instead of level/2 for the Druid levels for the animal companion as the animal companion has always struck me as a bit weak. Whatever though, still a great class.