WoW 2004=D&D 1980-ish

[Reynard]

It occurs to me: concerns about whether WoW and D&D compete, or whether WoW is killing D&D, and so on are swinging wide of the real issue: WoW is D&D. Or, rather, it fills the same niche with the same demographic that D&D did all those years ago. It's why the enjoyment of either isn't mutually exclusive of the other -- that has more to do with generation than anything else, I think. D&D can't fight WoW because they are members of the same evolutionary line.

This also suggests that D&D can't try and be, or beat, WoW and must either work to drain the wallets of its remaining, hardcore fans, or it must become something that is neither TRPG nor MMO. Ultimately, the collectible minis/competetive play model is probably the most potentially successful model of the game, at least as a physical, tabletop entity.

 

[hong]

This is so anime.

 

[Belphanior]

This is so anime.

God, if only. Then at least we'd have reached a consensus by now and wouldn't need to discuss "D&D is..." all the time. Plus, the dragonborn would all look like Mink and we wouldn't be shocked to learn they have boobs.

Also, moe halflings.

 

[SmCaudata]

The two are very different. I really dont count wow as an RPG. Your character has a mostly pregenerated path. There are no human DMs giving quests (most of the time). Also there are a ton of people that play both. Lastly, most of the WoW community lacks the maturity that I want at my game table.

CPRG vs PnP RPG debate comes up all the time. The is a market for both. You don't invite 5 friends over for a Saturday filled with WoW. You invite them over for a marathon role-playing session filled with die rolls. I dont see that changing any time soon.

 

[Lord Xtheth]

God, if only. Then at least we'd have reached a consensus by now and wouldn't need to discuss "D&D is..." all the time. Plus, the dragonborn would all look like Mink and we wouldn't be shocked to learn they have boobs.

Also, moe halflings.

Actually, I think Mink is more of a half-dragon.

Then again, I might be thinking in 3.X anime terms

 

[hexgrid]

vs PnP RPG debate comes up all the time. The is a market for both. You don't invite 5 friends over for a Saturday filled with WoW. You invite them over for a marathon role-playing session filled with die rolls. I dont see that changing any time soon.

You do, however, invite 5 friends over to bring their xboxes and play networked games. This is a common activity for my younger brother (age 19ish,) and if fills the same social function that table top RPGs did for me at that age.

 

[Belphanior]

Actually, I think Mink is more of a half-dragon.

Then again, I might be thinking in 3.X anime terms

Well yes, technically she is a half-dragon. But dragonborn would still look like her if 4e really was anime.

 

[SmCaudata]

You do, however, invite 5 friends over to bring their xboxes and play networked games. This is a common activity for my younger brother (age 19ish,) and if fills the same social function that table top RPGs did for me at that age.

I have been to LAN parties as well. It does not take the place of table top gaming. Many video game folks simply do not like RPGS with dice. The difference now is that there are both options for people.

 

[ThirdWizard]

Also, moe halflings.

She's a halfling!

 

[Reynard]

This is so anime.

I think the hong-bot is stuck in a recursive cycle and needs to be rebooted. or perhaps just scrapped in favor of something more capable of emulating intelligent discourse. this one keeps failing the Turing test.