You are all GODS!!

[Rathan]

I'm pretty sure you got the right jist of it Glass.... but I'll let the experts answer that officially for you...

 

[HolyMan]

Hmmm... very good question GlassEye and my inital thought is to say that and I am writing this to be copy pasted into the Character gene rules:

Base form: Bipedal humaniod- But your character does not need to stay that way, you may add anything you wish cosmeticly to your character. So go crazy if you wish (VV and FM sure did), six arms, horns, or wings. BUT if you want the extra attacks, gore attacking. or flight you will need to spend your special trait points to receive any abilities.

OK before I do copy paste this any thoughts?

HM

 

[Rathan]

Looks fine to me HM..... post it up

 

[Voda Vosa]

I think if you want the god to have aberration traits, you must buy the aberration form. and fo the additional attacks, spider net spitting and such you'll have to but each ability. I guess you'll get poison too?

 

[HolyMan]

Character check Rathan,

Deflection +14 looks like your CHA changed

BAB +16/+11/+6 I changed the rule on Epic BAB and Saves going to add class BAB as you lvl instead so I think your BAB should be +15/+10/+5

Where do you get the +13 Divine?? that is added to each save??

Skill points = 184 + (1 x 23) = 207 + 3 (Sorcerer) hey is the max skill ranks right? says 23 but we will start play at 21st lvl. so that would mean max is 24

I don't get how you spent your 20 trait points?? maybe I should ask people to list the points spent after the ability?
oh well will figure it out

Just two things please, a portfoilo and a favored weapon


HM

 

[HolyMan]

I think if you want the god to have aberration traits, you must buy the aberration form. and fo the additional attacks, spider net spitting and such you'll have to but each ability. I guess you'll get poison too?

Forgot about that in the rules you posted I think I will change them to the above as I don't think it feasable to have someone spend one trait point to get the appearance of a dragon, but no bite or claw attack, no flight, and no natrual armor bonus just weird.

I say pick the form and then by into the abilities, but still open for debate I need a rule on subtypes if you go and by all these things your subtype should change but should it be automatic??

HM

 

[Frozen Messiah]

Well here is my first attempt at making a god, hope no migrains stem from it.

[sblock=Duretep, The Lost Prophet]

[B]Name:[/B] Duretep, The Lost Prophet

[FONT=Arial][B]Class:[/B] Sorcerer 1[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Race:[/B] Outsider (Chaotic)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Size:[/B] Medium[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Gender:[/B] Male[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Alignment:[/B] Chaotic Neutral[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Deity:[/B] Himself[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Str:[/B] 12 +1 (2p.)(+2 trait)    [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Dex:[/B] 14 +2 (6p.)   [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Con:[/B] 14 +2 (6p.)   [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Int:[/B] 16 +3 (6p.) (+2 level)    [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Wis:[/B] 7  -2 (-1p.)   [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Cha:[/B] 25 +7 (16p.)(+3 level,+4 trait)[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Level:[/B] 21[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]BAB:[/B] 25/20/15/10  [B]Grapple:[/B] +25 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]HP:[/B] 200 (160+40)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Speed:[/B] 60' ground, 120' Fly (Average)    [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Dmg Red:[/B] 13/+4    [B]Spell Res:[/B] 32[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Init:[/B] +1               [B]Spell Save:[/B] +X[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]ACP:[/B] +0               [B]Spell Fail:[/B] 0%[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial]                 [B]Base  Armor Shld   Dex  Size    Nat  Misc  Total[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Armor:[/B]      10      +0    +X     +2    +0    +13    +7    XX[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Touch:[/B] 19              [B]Flatfooted:[/B] XX[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial]                       [B]Base   Mod  Misc  Total[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Fort:[/B]              +20    +2     X      +22[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Ref:[/B]               +20    +2     X      +22[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Will:[/B]              +20    -2     X      +18[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Weapon                  Attack   Damage     Critical[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                      +X     XdXX+X     XX-XXxX[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                      +X     XdXX+X     XX-XXxX[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                      +X     XdXX+X     XX-XXxX[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                      +X     XdXX+X     XX-XXxX[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Languages:[/B] Common, [/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Special Abilities:[/B] Gibbering (DC 27), Madness, Madness Incarnate (Blnding Beauty) (DC 27), Corporeal Instability (DC 22), Quickness[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Spell-like Abilities:[/B] at will: Prestidigitation, Tongues, Haste, Displacment, Dispel Magic, Mirror Image (image AC 12), Major Image (DC 20), Detect Thoughts, Detect Poison, Detect Magic 3 times-per-day: Teleport, greater[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Class Abilities:[/B] Familiar, spell casting[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Domains:[/B] Destiny, Madness, Planning[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Immunities:[/B] Immortality, Transmutation, Energy Drain, Ability Drain, Mind-Affecting Effects[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Resistances:[/B] Fire (20)[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Feats:[/B]  [/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Skill Points:[/B] 245       [B]Max Ranks:[/B] 23/11 1/2[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Skills                   Ranks  Mod  Misc  Total[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Bluff                         23      +7                +30[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Concentration            23      +2               +25[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Diplomacy                 23      +7              +30[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Forgery                   11.5     +3              +14.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Hide                        11.5    +2              +13.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Know(arcana)            23      +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Know(history)            23      +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Know(nature)             23     +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Know(religion)            23     +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Know(planes)             23     +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Move Silently            11.5    +2             +13.5[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Use Magic Device        23     +7            +30[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Spellcraft                  23     +3              +26[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Perform(string)          5.5    +7              +12.5[/FONT]
 
[FONT=Arial][B]Equipment:               Cost  Weight[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                     XXcp   XXlb[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                     XXsp   XXlb[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                     XXgp   XXlb[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]XXXX                     XXgp   XXlb[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Total Weight:[/B]XXlb      [B]Money:[/B] XXgp XXsp XXcp[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]                         [B]Lgt   Med   Hvy  Lift  Push[/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial][B]Max Weight:[/B]               XXX   XXX   XXX   XXX   XXX[/FONT]

[/sblock]

 

[GlassEye]

I won't need Aberration form for appearances. That's good.

So buying Aberration form gives the traits for that type? Aberration traits are nearly identical to Outsider traits. The important differences from my point of view: Aberrations are proficient with natural attacks, Outsiders with martial weapons. Aberrations eat, sleep, and breath where Outsiders only need to breathe. If I bought the aberration form would the Aberration traits replace the Outsider traits? If I buy a natural attack is my character automatically proficient with it? I would assume yes but that basically makes purchasing Aberration form pointless and even more of a disadvantage if you consider increased need for eating and sleeping. Since we're gods maybe this should work in a fashion similar to the gestalt rules; i.e. I buy Aberration form and take the best parts from their traits and add them to the best parts of Outsider traits (keeping Outsider features). Thoughts?

I was considering Alternate Form (spider swarm) [3 points], climb speed 40 ft. [2 points], a natural attack: either slam or stinger+poison [1 or 2 points] (stinger would actually be a poison spur on the legs but only one usable in this way per round), web [1 point]. Voda Vosa, I've noticed some similarities with your character so if you have a problem with me having a spider swarm alternate form let me know and I'll drop it. It's more special effect than necessary for my character.

And the domains I'm considering are Law, Darkness, and Repose. Her primary portfolio feature is the death/rebirth aspect.

 

[Rathan]

Deflection +14 looks like your CHA changed

Fixed...

BAB +16/+11/+6 I changed the rule on Epic BAB and Saves going to add class BAB as you lvl instead so I think your BAB should be +15/+10/+5

Fixed...

Where do you get the +13 Divine?? that is added to each save??

A while back in the thread VV said he forgot to mention that the God(dess) adds their CHA to saves as well.... this was part of CM's rules but he forgot to add it... so that's what the 'divine' +13's are from.... however I changed it back to just CHA descriptor to make it more recognizable.... you might want to add to the rules that all God(dess') add their cha bonus to all saves....

Skill points = 184 + (1 x 23) = 207 + 3 (Sorcerer) hey is the max skill ranks right? says 23 but we will start play at 21st lvl. so that would mean max is 24

Fixed...

I don't get how you spent your 20 trait points?? maybe I should ask people to list the points spent after the ability?
oh well will figure it out

I have added [1]'s next to those things I spent my STP(Special Trait Points) on.... I have also added an sblock listing just the things I spent STP's on....

Just two things please, a portfoilo and a favored weapon

What the heck do you put into a portfolilo? and her favored weapon will be the Bow.... Her Holy Symbol is a Flaming Bow with a jet back arrow.....

 

[GlassEye]

Do the gods gain access to their domain powers?