Your Pizza Order

What are your three favorite pizza toppings?

  • Anchovies

    Votes: 8 7.9%
  • Apples

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Artichoke hearts

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Asparagus

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Bacon

    Votes: 14 13.9%
  • Bamboo shoots

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Banana peppers

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Basil

    Votes: 7 6.9%
  • Bell pepper

    Votes: 7 6.9%
  • Butternut squash

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Canadian bacon

    Votes: 8 7.9%
  • Capers

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cauliflower

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Chicken

    Votes: 9 8.9%
  • Chili oil/chili crisp

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Chutney

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Clams

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Eggplant

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Garlic

    Votes: 8 7.9%
  • Ground beef

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • Ham

    Votes: 10 9.9%
  • Hazelnuts

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hearts of palm

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jalapenos

    Votes: 12 11.9%
  • Lobster

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Olives, black

    Votes: 12 11.9%
  • Olives, green

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Olives, kalamata

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Olive oil

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Onion, green (scallions)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Onion, raw

    Votes: 19 18.8%
  • Onion, pickled

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Mayonnaise

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Meatballs

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • Mushrooms

    Votes: 35 34.7%
  • Pepperoni

    Votes: 42 41.6%
  • Pepperocinis

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • Pineapple

    Votes: 27 26.7%
  • Pine nuts

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Potato

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Sausage

    Votes: 27 26.7%
  • Shrimp

    Votes: 4 4.0%
  • Smoked oysters

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Spinach

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Tomatoes, fresh

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Tomatoes, sun-dried

    Votes: 3 3.0%
  • Zucchini

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Ketchup

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Tuna

    Votes: 2 2.0%
  • Sriracha

    Votes: 1 1.0%

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
@Snarf Zagyg , I agree completely: words do have meaning. The dictionary describes a pizza as a type of pie, and vice versa, so I'm confident I'm using the words properly. Besides. You can't tell me you've never heard a pizza referred to as a "pie" before.
 

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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
@Snarf Zagyg , I agree completely: words do have meaning. The dictionary describes a pizza as a type of pie, and vice versa, so I'm confident I'm using the words properly. Besides. You can't tell me you've never heard a pizza referred to as a "pie" before.

I will not bow down to your prescriptivist demands! I am a man of, by, and for the people!

And what do the people want? That's right, tasty pizza. And sweet, sweet pies. Not the twain mixing in unholy verbiage salad.

Not a soul among them would say, "Hey, I can't wait to have some of that sweet Pecan Pizza at the diner. Mmm... or maybe a slice of Pumpkin Pizza with some .... KEWL H-WHIP.*"

No. Of course not! Boundaries. Boundaries! Would you be so bold as to re-write Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog?

Penny : He's a really good looking guy and I thought he was kind of cheesy at first.

Dr. Horrible : [under his breath] Trust your instincts.

Penny : But, he turned out to be totally sweet. Sometimes people are layered like that. There's something totally different underneath than what's on the surface.

Dr. Horrible : And sometimes there's a third, even deeper level, and that one is the same as the top surface one. Like with a pizza?


NOOOOOO! Because that's not a pizza, that's a calzone. Madness, madness I say. I will not have the boots of the pizza pie pedants in my face for eternity.



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Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
No, hot dogs are sandwiches.

1. People like what they like. You can’t force someone to like something. You can expose them to a piece of work, but if they don’t like it, that’s the way it is. You can’t talk them out of it. This is the Hawaiian Pizza Principle.

2. A machine gun is not a robot.

3. A hotdog is not a sandwich.

4. Those who put in the work, get to choose first. That is to say, if you’re driving the car, you have priority when it comes to programming what music or words you listen to.

5. Bad planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part.

6. There are no demons lurking in wind produced by box fans or air conditioners.

7. If you are within 250 miles of a German waterpark that is housed in a former zeppelin factory, go to it. Do not not go to it.

8. You should pay for content. And if possible, pay for it in the way that the thing that you are paying for makes money and is asking you to pay for it.

9. Be mindful of the work you leave for others.

10. Tip everyone because they are all humans. None of them is garbage.

11. And you are not garbage, so do not eat out of the garbage, or put that garbage on your pizza. In New Zealand or any nation.

12. Respect the work that you’ve done, and believe that your content is worth paying for.

13. I mentioned that a hotdog is not a sandwich, I’ll put it here again.

14. Do not try to weasel out of common sense agreements using pedantry such as, “this party is on private property, so I can wear my fleecy crocs.” Or to say, perhaps “A hot dog is a sandwich because it is listed on the sandwich part of this one menu that I am sending to you on Instagram right now.”

15. Do not seek out disputes in life; you’ll have plenty of them. Don’t look for fights. Don’t especially look for fights to try to get a thread over 2000 comments. And especially especially don’t look for fights and disputes in your life because you are obsessed with always being right. Because the truth is, you are mostly wrong. We all are wrong, and especially you, Ryujin, right now.
 

CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
I will not bow down to your prescriptivist demands! I am a man of, by, and for the people!

And what do the people want? That's right, tasty pizza. And sweet, sweet pies. Not the twain mixing in unholy verbiage salad.
Well now you're just arguing with the dictionary.

Get this. You speak of madness? You want to talk about unholy pie abominations? Buckle up, because I know people who...heck, I'm related to...people who put cheddar cheese on their apple pie. Deliberately, and with malice aforethought. It's the same sweet-savory overlap that you have described, but in reverse: they are putting savory ingredients in bone-fide desserts, on purpose.


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oh, the humanity...

You all have inspired me to have pizza for lunch. And I'm going to try as hard as I can, within the confines of my local pizzaria's toppings menu, to order a pizza from the Shame Basement. I'll post the results here.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
But...why!?

...it's a New England thing. Ideally, you pair it with a very sharp Vermont cheddar.

(I've heard that it might date back to Olde Englande, but that's probably not true).

You all have inspired me to have pizza for lunch. And I'm going to try as hard as I can, within the confines of my local pizzaria's toppings menu, to order a pizza from the Shame Basement. I'll post the results here.

And you are not garbage, so do not eat out of the garbage, or put that garbage on your pizza. In New Zealand or any nation.

Order a good pizza. Just because something exists, doesn't mean you have to fish it out of the garbage and throw it on your pizza. No matter what those Kiwis tell you.
 

Ryujin

Legend
If a hot dog is not a sandwich because the wiener is placed within a cut in the bread, rather than being between two separate pieces of bread, then a sub "sandwich" purchased at the restaurant chain Subway is not a sandwich for the same reason ;)
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
If a hot dog is not a sandwich because the wiener is placed within a cut in the bread, rather than being between two separate pieces of bread, then a sub "sandwich" purchased at the restaurant chain Subway is not a sandwich for the same reason ;)

Close, but not quite.

A sub purchased from the restaurant chain Subway is not a sandwich because I am not entirely sure it qualifies as "food."
 

Mercurius

Legend
I usually make my own, crust and sauce, although I leave the cheese to the cheesemakers.

One favorite, of both my daughter and myself is:

Pesto sauce + fresh mozzarella, parmesan, and boursin + asparagus, green olives, broccoli, onion, green peppers + red chili flakes and black pepper.

For a more traditional red sauce pizza, I love spicy italian sausage, mushrooms, black olives, garlic and basil leaves.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
@Snarf Zagyg , I agree completely: words do have meaning. The dictionary describes a pizza as a type of pie, and vice versa, so I'm confident I'm using the words properly. Besides. You can't tell me you've never heard a pizza referred to as a "pie" before.
In fact, in the NYC metro area, when getting pizzas, it's common to ask "how many pies should we get?"
 


embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
Well now you're just arguing with the dictionary.

Get this. You speak of madness? You want to talk about unholy pie abominations? Buckle up, because I know people who...heck, I'm related to...people who put cheddar cheese on their apple pie. Deliberately, and with malice aforethought. It's the same sweet-savory overlap that you have described, but in reverse: they are putting savory ingredients in bone-fide desserts, on purpose.


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oh, the humanity...

You all have inspired me to have pizza for lunch. And I'm going to try as hard as I can, within the confines of my local pizzaria's toppings menu, to order a pizza from the Shame Basement. I'll post the results here.
That's actually friggin' delicious.

Few things in life compare to a slice of fresh apple pie topped with a slice of melted sharp cheddar cheese, with a cup of hot black coffee.
 

embee

Lawyer by day. Rules lawyer by night.
1. People like what they like. You can’t force someone to like something. You can expose them to a piece of work, but if they don’t like it, that’s the way it is. You can’t talk them out of it. This is the Hawaiian Pizza Principle.

2. A machine gun is not a robot.

3. A hotdog is not a sandwich.

4. Those who put in the work, get to choose first. That is to say, if you’re driving the car, you have priority when it comes to programming what music or words you listen to.

5. Bad planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part.

6. There are no demons lurking in wind produced by box fans or air conditioners.

7. If you are within 250 miles of a German waterpark that is housed in a former zeppelin factory, go to it. Do not not go to it.

8. You should pay for content. And if possible, pay for it in the way that the thing that you are paying for makes money and is asking you to pay for it.

9. Be mindful of the work you leave for others.

10. Tip everyone because they are all humans. None of them is garbage.

11. And you are not garbage, so do not eat out of the garbage, or put that garbage on your pizza. In New Zealand or any nation.

12. Respect the work that you’ve done, and believe that your content is worth paying for.

13. I mentioned that a hotdog is not a sandwich, I’ll put it here again.

14. Do not try to weasel out of common sense agreements using pedantry such as, “this party is on private property, so I can wear my fleecy crocs.” Or to say, perhaps “A hot dog is a sandwich because it is listed on the sandwich part of this one menu that I am sending to you on Instagram right now.”

15. Do not seek out disputes in life; you’ll have plenty of them. Don’t look for fights. Don’t especially look for fights to try to get a thread over 2000 comments. And especially especially don’t look for fights and disputes in your life because you are obsessed with always being right. Because the truth is, you are mostly wrong. We all are wrong, and especially you, Ryujin, right now.
A hot dog is a sandwich.

A sandwich is food bounded on at least one side by bread or a bread analog.

The "hinged bread" argument fails because, if I take a sausage, place it in a long roll, and top it with a tomato based sauce and onions, I have a sandwich.

This may be either an Italian sausage sandwich, commonly served at street fairs throughout the Northeast (Italian sausage on a sliced hoagie roll, topped with tomato sauce and onions) or it is a hot dog (a frankfurter on a sliced hot dog roll, topped with sauce and onions).

Two separate pieces of bread are not required. See open-faced sandwich; gyro sandwich, sandwich wraps.

Actual bread is not necessary. See ice-cream sandwich.

Leavened bread is not necessary. See sandwich wraps, Hillel sandwiches.

Indeed, tacos and burritos are sandwiches, as are hamburgers, pierogi, gyoza, and even pizza (an open-faced sandwich).
 


If a hotdog is not a sandwich, what is it? Not saying I entirely agree or disagree that it is a sandwich, but if not that, what? Is it a sub/hoagie or it's own thing, sui generis?

3. A hotdog is not a sandwich.

I never had apple pie with cheese prior to meeting my wife, who introduced me to it. I was skeptical, but it actually is really tasty.

That's actually friggin' delicious.

Few things in life compare to a slice of fresh apple pie topped with a slice of melted sharp cheddar cheese, with a cup of hot black coffee.

Getting back to pizza, there's a local pizza joint that does nothing but sourdough crust pizzas, and it is so darn good. And for some of us that are sensitive to gluten, sourdough is not as bothersome due to the enzymes.
 
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CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
And you are not garbage, so do not eat out of the garbage, or put that garbage on your pizza. In New Zealand or any nation.

Order a good pizza. Just because something exists, doesn't mean you have to fish it out of the garbage and throw it on your pizza. No matter what those Kiwis tell you.
I did both: I ordered a pizza with toppings that nobody has (yet) voted for, and it's not garbage.

Pepperoncini, green onion, and apple makes a pretty good pizza, folks. It doesn't change my vote, though.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
If a hotdog is not a sandwich, what is it? Not saying I entirely agree that it is a sandwich, but if not that, what? Is it a sub/hoagie or it's own thing, sui generis?

To get (semi) serious for a second, this is the issue people can get into when discussing family-resemblance concepts, and using rigid definitional ideas ... because natural language does not have the formal rigidity of a symbolic logical system, let alone math.

It is for these reasons, claims such as "A hot dog is a sandwich" that we end up getting court being forced to make statements like, "“In this case we are called on to determine whether a cow is an uninsured motor vehicle under appellants’ insurance policy. We hold that it is not.” Why? Because for every pedant, there is a pedanter.

But to answer your question, I find that sandwiches to not be some overarching item that encompasses all foodtuffs, from deserts (ice cream sandwiches) to wraps, to burritos, to tacos, to lobster rolls, to open faced sandwiches, to massive cheeseburgers, to nachos, to sushi, and so on.

A sandwich is, to me, two slices of bread and a filling in between them (that is not bread). Moreover, if you are prone to use a term that is other than a sandwich in referring to the item (such as taco, burrito, or even burger) then it is not a sandwich.

If you chop up your hot dog, and eat it between two slices of bread, then you have a sandwich. If not, you don't. And do you know how you tell? Very simple-

You are at the ballbark. You want to order a Fenway Frank. Or a Dodger Dog. Do you say, "Hey, Ima get me a hot dog. Anyone else want one?" Or do you ask who else wants ... a SANDWICH?

Yeah, I thought so. Usage, as always, is the #winner.


EDIT- the test should always be this- if you ask somebody, "Hey, do you want a sandwich?" when asking about the item ... if they are confused, then it's not a sandwich.
 


CleverNickName

Limit Break Dancing
Is a cucumber a fruit?
Yes, absolutely. It meets all of the requirements for that classification.
Unfortunately, it doesn't meet a lot of other, unofficial qualifications that were invented by popular opinion...so you'll get confused looks whenever you refer to a cucumber as a fruit, and nobody ever thinks of "cucumber" when asked to name a fruit.

Is a hot dog a sandwich?
See above.

Is a pizza a pie?
See above.
 

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