Dragon Roots Magazine DIDN'T sell the 4e Killed Gary shirts

[Mistwell]

I still can't track down the shirt people. These two sites mention the topic, but that's far from conclusive:

http://www.sheezyart.com/journal/462923/

and

http://www.myspace.com/mac_iii

 

[DM-Rocco]

I most certainly would, given the chance. And that's not the same thing, you won't find any of Reagan's family at a republican convention.

To be honest, I didn't want to bring it up, since I wasn't there, but from what I heard, your booth sounds far more offensive to me than these t-shirts. Using someone's death to make a statement about something you don't like and feel they wouldn't like is one thing. I don't find it any more offensive than saying "so and so would be rolling over in their grave at this." But setting up a booth to sell merchandise with their face and seemingly nothing else, using a funeral to draw people to your booth, selling t-shirts and magazines and doing everything you can to put your brand name next to a dead man's face offends me. And just because it's sentimental and not shocking doesn't make it any better.

But that's your choice, you don't think it's wrong to do, and it's your right. The 4e Killed Gary shirts play to the same audience, they just use shock over sentiment.

See, that is the problem that a lot of people ran into. The people who didn't stop by heard things from a second source and blew it out of proportion. You weren't there, so allow me to explain it a bit.

We didn't show the memorial service to draw people in, we showed it as a sign of respect and for people to pay a last bit of respect for those people who couldn't brave a blizzard to be there. We never intentionally disrupted people viewing except to say that the sound could not be heard because of the ambient noise of the hall and we encouraged people to either lean in to hear better or come back to watch, undisturbed, once we had better speakers. Even when we got better speakers, the volume of the speakers couldn’t compete with the hall so we took it down because it defeated the purpose of the display.

We actually got a lot of great feed back on the display, with the exception of one person who posted on GenCon threads, and many thanked us for it.

As to our own shirts, the picture we have of Gary on our shirts is actually our cover of issue #1, it pays respect to him and memorializes him. The quote on the back is from our quote contest we had after has passed away, so we didn’t put words in his mouth. Even Luke Gygax and a few other friends of the family came by to purchase one. I wasn’t there when Luke stopped by but my staff told me they gave him one for free.

So, I don’t see how that is the same, but you are entitled to your opinion.

 

[DM-Rocco]

I still can't track down the shirt people. These two sites mention the topic, but that's far from conclusive:

http://www.sheezyart.com/journal/462923/

and

http://www.myspace.com/mac_iii

Interesting.

I hardly think it is proof enough to airlift Ranger REG into combat though

Okay, I am teasing if you couldn't tell. The thread is getting a little serious and I feel I have to make that clear

 

[Ranger REG]

Interesting.

I hardly think it is proof enough to airlift Ranger REG into combat though

Okay, I am teasing if you couldn't tell. The thread is getting a little serious and I feel I have to make that clear

Teasing about my weight? Not cool.

 

[CapnZapp]

Oh, please, let us avoid the revenge porn, it leads nowhere.

Congrats on being imblogtalized!

---

For what it's worth, I agree with "It’s 2008, get over it." and "4e didn’t kill Gary, it just makes him roll over in his grave."
http://mxyzplk.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/4e-killed-gary-gygax/

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Well, this thread has certainly provided a bumper crop of a-holes to add to my Ignore list.

 

[Mark]

Well, this thread has certainly provided a bumper crop of a-holes to add to my Ignore list.

I'm only quoting you because most people probably can't read your posts.

 

[Mark]

I still can't track down the shirt people.

I doubt Gary would approve of this hunt. Let it go.

 

[Darkwolf71]

So Gary Gygax. I didn't know him, but he died about 10 days before my dad. I made similar jokes about my dad's passing related to various things he would have disapproved of long before Gencon. I still have a tendency to say "Wow, if dad was still alive, this would have killed him."

There is such a huge difference hear that it shouldn't need pointing out. You would (or at least should IMO) feel quite differently if a group of total strangers were making light of your dad's death. Why, you might even get upset.

I lost my sister several years ago, recently my mom and I had a bit of a laugh at the fact that she would have turned 40 this year. That's among family, and that's ok. If I came acoss someone else making off color comments about her... I'd poke them in the friggen eye.

But then, I've been told I have a temper.

 

[DM-Rocco]

Teasing about my weight? Not cool.

* sigh *

No, I am not.

I meant it as in, “find the location and deploy you, and/or team of like minded individuals, in a tactical strike through the use of a parachute to sneak in behind enemy lines to assault the enemy,” like Bravo company during World War II. Given your previous bravado I thought you would find it humorous.

I didn’t mean like Operation Dumbo Drop.

Yes, I was just having fun and didn't mean we should really pay to have Ranger REG or others go to assualt them. It was constructive humor.

Another example of why I don’t always come off as intended in e-mails and posts