Immortals Handbook - Ascension Discussion

[Farealmer3]

Thanks for your replies, got a few more questions.

I'd say Metempiric. Simply because infinite caster level would allow you to duplicate any omnific ability.

How so?

Generally speaking, infinite 'stuff' is Omnific, however, it must be limited to one aspect of that 'infinity'.

But infinite ability scorces(particularly con and dex) give you multiple aspects.

Also i presume you've seen the Mortiverse on this site. How would that rank in your divine tier system.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Thanks for your replies, got a few more questions.

Fire away.

How so?

With infinite caster level you could create spells which could duplicate omnific abilities, in that they are, in and of themselves 'infinite'.

But infinite ability scorces (particularly con and dex) give you multiple aspects.

They don't give you infinite aspects though, which is indirectly what infinite spellcaster level does give you.

Also i presume you've seen the Mortiverse on this site. How would that rank in your divine tier system.

No. Link please.

 

[Farealmer3]

No. Link please.

Here you go. It's the first link.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mortiverse&aq=f&oq=

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hola Amigo!

Here you go. It's the first link.
mortiverse - Google Search

Thanks very much.

Interesting monster, though it would work much better in 4th Edition where you could make it a Level 80 Solo Lurker and do away with all the zeroes...making it actually usable, provided you had a bunch of 75th-level or higher PCs of course.

Very interesting to see what people will do with 4th Edition in a similar vein.

As regards 3.5 it certainly seems a lot higher (in terms of the math) than I wanted to go. So its somewhere between the most powerful High Lords and the Supreme Being.

 

[dante58701]

Gods of Death have this weakness...

Sterility You cannot produce offspring, even magically Always Active

...does this mean they can't take Great Breath (Cosmic)???

Any life created by it would not be their offspring and could be used to destroy life.

Also, given the vast number of Death Gods that have divine offspring, this makes little sense.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey dante mate!

Gods of Death have this weakness...

Sterility You cannot produce offspring, even magically Always Active

...does this mean they can't take Great Breath (Cosmic)???

Any life created by it would not be their offspring and could be used to destroy life.

They can always create undead or have undead 'children'...atropal for instance.

Also, given the vast number of Death Gods that have divine offspring, this makes little sense.

What is this vast number you speak of?

 

[dante58701]

Hey dante mate!

Alo!!!

They can always create undead or have undead 'children'...atropal for instance.

That's still producing "offspring". Which defies the Infertility clause.

What is this vast number you speak of?

Examples...

Anubis is said to have fathered Kebechet, Nefertum, Wepwawet, etc. depending upon which variations of the mythology you really buy into.

Hades is said to have fathered Macaria.

Yama is said to have fathered Amṛta and Duḥsvapna.

There are many, many other examples of this.

 

[Alzrius]

They can always create undead or have undead 'children'...atropal for instance.

That's still producing "offspring". Which defies the Infertility clause.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but dante is right, U_K.

You actually lend support to his position in one part of the Gates of Thanatos section of your Throne of Orcus adventure outline on your website. I direct your attention to Encounter #9:

Encounter #9: The Nursery...Here dwell the children of Orcus, thirteen Atropal, attended by their mother, the demon princess known as Pale Night. Normally death gods cannot have children, but Pale Night is in some part a fertility goddess and seems to be able to neutralize Orcus sterility.

This does seem to lay down precedent that death gods cannot normally sire even atropals.

What is this vast number you speak of?

Examples...

Anubis is said to have fathered Kebechet, Nefertum, Wepwawet, etc. depending upon which variations of the mythology you really buy into.

Hades is said to have fathered Macaria.

Yama is said to have fathered Amṛta and Duḥsvapna.

There are many, many other examples of this.

Also, depending on what myths are followed, the Sumerian death deities Nergal and/or his wife Ereshkigal are the parents of the god Ninazu.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Alo!!!

Howdy!

That's still producing "offspring". Which defies the Infertility clause.

Really, thats weird - I don't remember never wanting Death Gods to be able to create undead.

Though I see from Alzrius link that clearly I must have thought it was a good idea at some stage.

Examples...

Anubis is said to have fathered Kebechet, Nefertum, Wepwawet, etc. depending upon which variations of the mythology you really buy into.

Hades is said to have fathered Macaria.

Yama is said to have fathered Amṛta and Duḥsvapna.

Interesting, I'll look into it.

I don't think removing the sterility clause is much of a big deal anyway.

There are many, many other examples of this.

Feel free to list as many others as you can find.

 

[Belzamus]

Question, U_K.

Natural Armor from size increases. Is each gain cumulative or overlapping.

Say I advanced a creature from Colossal to Macro-Fine. Would its total natural armor= its original +8 or its orignal +15 (+7 from Titanic and +8 from Macro-Fine).

I hope the question makes sense, it's kind of hard to articulate.