C4, the Best Edition Never Published

[C4]

C4 is short for the Complete 4th Edition. So, what’s C4 about? Well, a few things.

First, I’m not gung-ho about the CB (character builder), and I know I’m not alone. A set of all-sources-and-errata-included docs that require only Adobe Acrobat come in handy for some of us. This is C4's primary purpose.

Second, the game is still problematic. It has overpowered options like the infamous taxpertise feats and crippled trap builds like the star pact warlock. The designers, for whatever inane reason, haven’t seen fit to errata these problems and probably never will. C4 is my own errata for these problems.

C4 is a work in progress; I've written a lot, but there's still a lot more to write. If you're interested, email me at Complete4th@gmail.com and I'll send you what you want. No charge, just ask nicely!

What I've done so far:

C4 Forward
Character Advancement
Races
Skills
Heroic Feats
[Mundane] Equipment
Adventuring
Combat
Rituals
Martial Practices

Arcane Classes
Sorcerer
Artificer
Swordmage
Warlock
Wizard
Bard

Divine Classes
Cleric
Paladin
Invoker
Avenger
Runepriest

Martial Classes
Fighter
Ranger
Rogue
Warlord

Primal Classes
Barbarian
Druid
Seeker
Shaman
Warden

Psionic Classes
Ardent
Battlemind
Monk
Psion

Shadow Class
Assassin

(Yes, C4 is a gross violation of everything that copyright lawyers hold dear. No, I don't lose any sleep over it and neither does WotC. Feel free to huff about it though, if that's how you get your kicks.)

 

[nnms]

First of all, get rid of the coloured background if you expect people to print this. If it's for screen use, put it in landscape format to suit the proliferation of wide screens.

Secondly, I think you've got a big gross violation of copyright going on. Have you taken text verbatim from the PHB and other sources and passed it off as your own work?

I appreciate what you're trying to do here, but you need to write this in your own words, not just copy from stuff written by others.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

Lets see:

- uses the trade dress without changes.
- uses classes and races only with slight changes.
- no legalize to protect you from anything (not that it would help).

Congratulations. You won the "prime example for a violation of pretty much anything" award. Contact your lawyer about your prize.

 

[Dice4Hire]

Is this a massive attempt at copyright infringement?

 

[Dice4Hire]

C4 is short for the Complete 4th Edition. So, what’s C4 about? Well, a few things.

First, I’m not gung-ho about the CB (character builder), and I know I’m not alone. A set of all-sources-and-errata-included docs that require only Adobe Acrobat come in handy for some of us. C4 are these documents. And as an added bonus, they're all free.

Second, the game is still problematic. It has overpowered options like the infamous taxpertise feats and crippled builds like the star pact warlock. The designers, for whatever inane reason, haven’t seen fit to errata these problems and probably never will. C4 is errata for these problems.

C4 is a work in progress; I've written a lot, but there's still a lot more to write. So please, take a look and let me know what you think!

I think you need to not copy other people's work. Why not take this energy and submit articles to Dragon or Dungeon?

 

[WhatGravitas]

Oh man, this *is* a huge copyright violation!

This said, I do dig your idea - collecting a "best of" of all 4E material, updating/errata-ing and putting it together would be amazing (and one could fix expertise/defence feats in the same go or chuck out unbalanced or weird stuff)... but sadly, that's only within the purview of WotC.

Alas, I miss the OGL and the old d20 SRD...

Cheers, LT.

 

[RigaMortus2]

I haven't checked out the links yet, but I don't think he's trying to profit from this or anything. He's just doing a "best of" and collecting relevant information that is already out there. Its kind of like saying, "Given all of the 4e stuff that is out there, this is what I would use for my campaign"

And it's not like we don't see copy/paste jobs posted on these forums everytime a new book is about to be released, when people get it early. Sure, they may omit unnecessary text, but the meat of it is still posted.

 

[keterys]

As noted, you might want to delink your post and keep your work as something that your home group uses rather than something shared with everyone.

You have some interesting ideas, but it's difficult for me to really dive into them because you actually have, well, all of the quoted stuff getting in the way. It would be a lot easier for me to get a feel for your changes with a change list than having to look at every power wondering what happened.

I applaud your level of investment at least. But, do it in a way that doesn't get you in trouble, eh?

 

[the Jester]

I haven't checked out the links yet, but I don't think he's trying to profit from this or anything. He's just doing a "best of" and collecting relevant information that is already out there. Its kind of like saying, "Given all of the 4e stuff that is out there, this is what I would use for my campaign"

And it's not like we don't see copy/paste jobs posted on these forums everytime a new book is about to be released, when people get it early. Sure, they may omit unnecessary text, but the meat of it is still posted.

He's doing the equivalent of giving out free copies of all the books.

Sorry, C4, but you should NOT have these on a public site like Google Docs... if anything, keep them for your home group but don't have them on a public site, you're just going to end up with a Cease & Desist from WotC.

 

[TerraDave]

before these links are cut or this thread stopped.

I don't think having a 4E OGL would have hurt WotC one bit and I don't think this will either.

But thats just me.

Thanks for the hard work.