Truth Seeker
Adventurer
Trial and Error
Colonel Young doubts his own sanity when he has visions of Destiny destroyed in an enemy attack
STARGATE UNIVERSE #6:Trial and Error /Season 2/2010
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Kind of interesting and kind of funning that Rush did not release he was being tested too. Be interesting what the Destiny has planned for it's crew, also makes me think it is the Destiny that is changing Chole, not the aliens.
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
Meh, The only battle we get to see are the drunken delusions of a commander on the edge. It is rather pathetic of stargaze command to allow Young to get such news. In general they give people using the stones too much freedom. The last thing Young or anyone else needs is bad news like a divorce.
I doubt the Destiny has some super AI. The writers would have to pull out a lot of bs to explain how a ship can that barely function when the computer is running a super simulation can house an effective AI that is studying them. Especially when more advanced Ancient built devices or structures like Atlantis and Ancient warships do not have them at all.
My guess is this is building to some crisis where Rush has to save the day and cannot get to the bridge to do it. So he has go use the master control code to activate the hyperdrive to escape an attack from the control room with everyone else around.
Any bets in the sincerity of the LA redhead? I seriously doubt it because they are making the show nBSG in Stargate where nothing good can happen.
The whole Chloe bit is boring. A blatant attempt to make the eye candy more useful. They are going to drag things out so long that I doubt the writers know what they are doing anymore than the writers knew what Starbuck was when she returned.
I doubt the Destiny has some super AI. The writers would have to pull out a lot of bs to explain how a ship can that barely function when the computer is running a super simulation can house an effective AI that is studying them. Especially when more advanced Ancient built devices or structures like Atlantis and Ancient warships do not have them at all.
My guess is this is building to some crisis where Rush has to save the day and cannot get to the bridge to do it. So he has go use the master control code to activate the hyperdrive to escape an attack from the control room with everyone else around.
Any bets in the sincerity of the LA redhead? I seriously doubt it because they are making the show nBSG in Stargate where nothing good can happen.
The whole Chloe bit is boring. A blatant attempt to make the eye candy more useful. They are going to drag things out so long that I doubt the writers know what they are doing anymore than the writers knew what Starbuck was when she returned.
LightPhoenix
First Post
About halfway into the first battle, I knew this had to be some sort of dream or illusion or some crap like that. Lo and behold.
I think I would have liked this episode a lot more if it weren't for last week's terrible episode. This episode was by far stronger than last week, but this makes two weeks in a row where nothing really happened. As such, I found myself responding more negatively to the show than perhaps was warranted. Compounding the problem was two things. First, what little consequence of last week's episode was basically hand-waved in the scene. Second, the battle dreams really felt like a tease, especially with the dearth of action.
I really wanted to see Scott take over as leader. I think it'd be amusing to see Young as the drunk commander who occasionally hands out advice and then falls over. More over, I think it gives Scott some character development without sacrificing tactics all that much.
On that note, I liked the callback to the failed coup. I suspect it has to do as much with Scott being more charismatic than Young than the fact that they failed the last time. Still, continuity always equals bonus points.
I can let the simulation go for a number of reasons. They have stones that allow people to swap consciousness, for one. They have a chair that interfaces with the brain. The ship is clearly guided by some sort of AI, be it simple parameter checks or what have you. Plus, it's about time someone recognized Young is a crappy commander.
I liked the scenes between Eli and Greer, and Eli and the various scientists. First, it made Greer seem more like a person than a caricature, which is always good. Second, the beats with the scientists added a bit of levity, especially all of them plus Scott staring at him. My favorite bit of the episode was Park's throwaway line teasing Eli.
DocMoriartty, good call on the ship testing Rush as well. I didn't think of it like that, but I should have.
I think I would have liked this episode a lot more if it weren't for last week's terrible episode. This episode was by far stronger than last week, but this makes two weeks in a row where nothing really happened. As such, I found myself responding more negatively to the show than perhaps was warranted. Compounding the problem was two things. First, what little consequence of last week's episode was basically hand-waved in the scene. Second, the battle dreams really felt like a tease, especially with the dearth of action.
I really wanted to see Scott take over as leader. I think it'd be amusing to see Young as the drunk commander who occasionally hands out advice and then falls over. More over, I think it gives Scott some character development without sacrificing tactics all that much.
On that note, I liked the callback to the failed coup. I suspect it has to do as much with Scott being more charismatic than Young than the fact that they failed the last time. Still, continuity always equals bonus points.
I can let the simulation go for a number of reasons. They have stones that allow people to swap consciousness, for one. They have a chair that interfaces with the brain. The ship is clearly guided by some sort of AI, be it simple parameter checks or what have you. Plus, it's about time someone recognized Young is a crappy commander.
I liked the scenes between Eli and Greer, and Eli and the various scientists. First, it made Greer seem more like a person than a caricature, which is always good. Second, the beats with the scientists added a bit of levity, especially all of them plus Scott staring at him. My favorite bit of the episode was Park's throwaway line teasing Eli.
DocMoriartty, good call on the ship testing Rush as well. I didn't think of it like that, but I should have.
JacktheRabbit
Explorer
Good point. I got that impression as well. Greer has no desire to trust any of them and is going as close to spitting in their faces to get a reaction.
I loved the whole Eli revelation to everyone about the redhead. Had the stereotypical noob at a strip club "she really likes me" feel to it.
I thought that too at the beginning of the season. However, everyone on the ship jumped to the conclusion it was the blue aliens without a second glance and the storylines have continued that path.
Since she was left alone when Eli went to save Scott, in an unexplored part of the ship, I wondered if it couldn't be the ship. Eli could also be infected if it was a section of the ship that infected her. Only he hasn't noticed it yet. And have they explored those other parts yet? It seems a lot of military people have a lot of time on their hands, they could do it.
They should have left it ambiguous, but instead we got "it was the blue aliens"
Merkuri
Explorer
Just saw this episode on Hulu. Have not seen later episodes yet - no spoilers for those, please.
I'm wondering if the whole situation with Chloe is a way to write her out, since she appears to be an unpopular character. I started thinking about that when Young made the comment about having to let her go (or something along those lines) when he was confronted by Scott.
Assuming she is some sort of sleeper cell left by the aliens, they may end up having no choice but to leave her on the most hospitable planet they come across in order to avoid the sort of confrontation with the blue aliens that the simulation was about.
Regarding the ship not being able to pilot while running the simulation, I found that completely believable. We know the ship is not in good shape. It's capable of plotting a course, running life support, and attempting to anticipate the needs of its crew (which is fed into the course-plotting routine when it determines what gates to stop at). But perhaps its processing power or RAM-equivalent has been compromised over time.
I work in tech support for a software company, and I once got a call from a very irate customer who claimed that his machine used to work fine, but now all of a sudden it couldn't run our data logging program and our user interface at the same time. The machine would grind to a halt and be unable to do anything. After days of trying to figure out why the performance of the machine had tanked the customer finally called us back and apologized. They noticed that the case on the machine was crooked as if it hadn't been closed properly, and when they opened it up they found out that someone had stolen the machine's RAM. It had gone from 4 GB to something like 256 MB. The machine was no longer capable of running our software. (I believe they installed locks on their PC cases after that.)
So, I find it completely believable that something like this has happened to Destiny, albeit due to degradation over time instead of theft. Its AI is complex enough to study the crew, but its hardware is sub-par at the moment, meaning it had to sacrifice cycles from the course-plotting subroutine in favor of the simulation subroutine. To go back again to a real-world computer metaphor, it would be like trying to run a complex 3D modeling program on an average PC - you could do it, but it would take weeks to render and good luck getting your PC to multitask in the meantime. The software's good, but the hardware ain't.
I'm wondering if the whole situation with Chloe is a way to write her out, since she appears to be an unpopular character. I started thinking about that when Young made the comment about having to let her go (or something along those lines) when he was confronted by Scott.
Assuming she is some sort of sleeper cell left by the aliens, they may end up having no choice but to leave her on the most hospitable planet they come across in order to avoid the sort of confrontation with the blue aliens that the simulation was about.
Regarding the ship not being able to pilot while running the simulation, I found that completely believable. We know the ship is not in good shape. It's capable of plotting a course, running life support, and attempting to anticipate the needs of its crew (which is fed into the course-plotting routine when it determines what gates to stop at). But perhaps its processing power or RAM-equivalent has been compromised over time.
I work in tech support for a software company, and I once got a call from a very irate customer who claimed that his machine used to work fine, but now all of a sudden it couldn't run our data logging program and our user interface at the same time. The machine would grind to a halt and be unable to do anything. After days of trying to figure out why the performance of the machine had tanked the customer finally called us back and apologized. They noticed that the case on the machine was crooked as if it hadn't been closed properly, and when they opened it up they found out that someone had stolen the machine's RAM. It had gone from 4 GB to something like 256 MB. The machine was no longer capable of running our software. (I believe they installed locks on their PC cases after that.)
So, I find it completely believable that something like this has happened to Destiny, albeit due to degradation over time instead of theft. Its AI is complex enough to study the crew, but its hardware is sub-par at the moment, meaning it had to sacrifice cycles from the course-plotting subroutine in favor of the simulation subroutine. To go back again to a real-world computer metaphor, it would be like trying to run a complex 3D modeling program on an average PC - you could do it, but it would take weeks to render and good luck getting your PC to multitask in the meantime. The software's good, but the hardware ain't.
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