D&D 5E Should the next edition of D&D promote more equality?

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Gender based ability penalties just don't make any sense. You don't say all male barbarians have to be equal in strength; they can have any ability range they roll, or pick from a standard array, etc. and then justify why (age, genetics, etc) as they wish. Why penalize someone who wants to play an exceptional character just because of that person's gender?

It's asinine, and possibly destructive, to tell someone "here's a made up world where anything is possible. Except a woman will never ever be able to be stronger than a man."
 
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To all: if you really want gender based stat differences hard-coded into your RPG, then F.A.T.A.L. is the system for you.








(I don't get to use that last phrase very often.)
 

Gender based ability penalties just don't make any sense. You don't say all male barbarians have to be equal in strength; they can have any ability range they roll, or pick from a standard array, etc. and then justify why (age, genetics, etc) as they wish. Why penalize someone who wants to play an exceptional character just because of that person's gender?

It's asinine, and possibly destructive, to tell someone "here's a made up world where anything is possible. Except a woman will never ever be able to be stronger than a man."

Such is life...
 


Arguing against diversity in medieval European settings just means you don't know anything about medieval Europe.

Of importance:
http://aidanmoher.com/blog/featured...attle-and-slaves-narrative-by-kameron-hurley/

When I sat down with one of my senior professors in Durban, South Africa to talk about my Master’s thesis, he asked me why I wanted to write about women resistance fighters.
“Because women made up twenty percent of the ANC’s militant wing!” I gushed. “Twenty percent! When I found that out I couldn’t believe it. And you know – women have never been part of fighting forces –”

He interrupted me. “Women have always fought,” he said.
“What?” I said.

“Women have always fought,” he said. “Shaka Zulu had an all-female force of fighters. Women have been part of every resistance movement. Women dressed as men and went to war, went to sea, and participated actively in combat for as long as there have been people.”
 

That would be Africans, not Europeans.

Not saying that they were unknown in Europe- there are depictions of Roman gladiatrixes, after all, and one of history's deadliest fencers was a woman (her name escapes me)- but female warriors were much rarer in Europe than in Africa. Orders of magnitude rarer.
 
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Such is life...

No, it's not. If you had seen the inside of a gym in the past decade, you'd know that women can develop pretty much the same strength that men can. They just won't develop the same muscle size.

The SOLE reason more women (who want to train or lose weight) don't hit the weight room as hard as men do is because they've been taught (wrongly) that lifting weights will make them "ugly" and "bulky" (not true, unless they down supplements like crazy and dehydrate themselves dangerously).

So, in a universe where civilization is under threats from ogres, orcs, trolls, and all sorts of vile nasties, and where every sword-arm is required to protect the cities and towns, you're telling me that a girl who chooses the path of the soldier, who's going to train from the age of 12, 13, 15 tops to be apt at fighting, wearing armor, etc. is going to be less strong than her male counterparts. That's simply not gonna be the case.

Here are a few exemples to educate yourself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzLpODqxrE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StkKrqvD7l
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqDEeIv8Rd4

(that 13 year-old benching close to 200 lbs is crazy. I'm thirty-one, been training for close to six years, and I plateau'd at maybe 250.)
 


Nope- just went by your quote, because I'm standing in a beauty supply store with a rapidly diminishing charge on my iPod Touch.

Thesis is as such:
I’m going to tell you a story about llamas. It will be like every other story you’ve ever heard about llamas: how they are covered in fine scales; how they eat their young if not raised properly; and how, at the end of their lives, they hurl themselves – lemming-like- over cliffs to drown in the surging sea. They are, at heart, sea creatures, birthed from the sea, married to it like the fishing people who make their livelihood there.
Every story you hear about llamas is the same. You see it in books: the poor doomed baby llama getting chomped up by its intemperate parent. On television: the massive tide of scaly llamas falling in a great, majestic herd into the sea below. In the movies: bad-ass llamas smoking cigars and painting their scales in jungle camouflage.
Because you’ve seen this story so many times, because you already know the nature and history of llamas, it sometimes shocks you, of course, to see a llama outside of these media spaces. The llamas you see don’t have scales. So you doubt what you see, and you joke with your friends about “those scaly llamas” and they laugh and say, “Yes, llamas sure are scaly!” and you forget your actual experience.
And then there came a day when you started writing about your own llamas. Unsurprisingly, you didn’t choose to write about the soft, downy, non-cannibalistic ones you actually met, because you knew no one would find those “realistic.” You plucked out the llamas from the stories. You created cannibal llamas with a death wish, their scales matted in paint.
It’s easier to tell the same stories everyone else does. There’s no particular shame in it.
It’s just that it’s lazy, which is just about the worst possible thing a spec fic writer can be.
Oh, and it’s not true.
 

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