Xanathars guide

[IgnatiusJ.Reilly]

I'm not really comfortable with Xanathar's Guide's stuff yet either, but we'll see.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

This is not an unreasonable stance.

It’s a wildly uneasonable stance.

 

[Sunseeker]

It’s a wildly uneasonable stance.

To not allow books you are not familiar with in play? To not allow books you don't own to be used?

The DM gets to set what is available to be used in his game. The fact that WotC printed it doesn't mean he has to allow it. The books themselves even say exactly that.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

We've all offered to let him borrow our books of xanathars lol.

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You need to talk to the other players, see if they feel the same way you do, and then talk to the DM about this.

It sounds like he’s turning into a railroader with a “me vs the PCs” mentality, and the only fix for that is communication.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

To not allow books you are not familiar with in play? To not allow books you don't own to be used?

The DM gets to set what is available to be used in his game. The fact that WotC printed it doesn't mean he has to allow it. The books themselves even say exactly that.

4 players have the book. They’ve all offered to let him borrow it.

The fact that he doesn’t have to do a thing doesn’t mean that not doing it is reasonable.

Not allowing a book simply because you don’t personally own it, when getting ahold of it is very easy, is beyond unreasonable.

 

[Sunseeker]

4 players have the book. They’ve all offered to let him borrow it.

The fact that he doesn’t have to do a thing doesn’t mean that not doing it is reasonable.

Not allowing a book simply because you don’t personally own it, when getting ahold of it is very easy, is beyond unreasonable.

No, it really isn't, but I'm aware you have like, the lowest definition of "unreasonable" I've ever seen so this really isn't a discussion I'm interested in continuing.

 

[Marius Delphus]

He's still fresh at being a Dm. So that's how he's progressed from where he started to now. I've noticed he's become more power hungry. Making it so that we don't get magic items because their to O.P. (his words) but yet the creatures we fight are honestly way to strong for us. We didn't have a chance against the beholder we fought. My character died. Two turned to stone. And the other was paralyzed. And he had it set up to where we couldn't get out of the 150ft cone so that we couldn't use magic ( half our party is magical users).

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This is the alarming part, to me. The book thing seems like just a symptom of this DM's need to "win."

DMs like this typically won't offer their players anything they consider an "edge." I wouldn't be surprised if this DM, given XGtE as a gift, said, "can't use until I've had a chance to read it over," then "can't use until the next campaign," then "everything in here is banninated." And then blames the players for "making me take this step because of all the badgering."

The deeper problem isn't the source material being allowed for PC creation, it's the DM's attitude toward the players. This DM may be too new to realize that the player characters are basically supposed to win. Not overwhelmingly, not every time, not without the potential for setbacks along the way, not necessarily with ease, but more often than not. And that the game is supposed to be fun for everyone who's playing, not just the DM.

In my view, this DM needs rehabilitation more than a new book. JMHO. HTH. HAND.

 

[xxluzdarkxx]

I was questioning both. He made it sound like the beholder was not only above their pay grade but in a room that pinned them all down in front of its big eye. So while, yes, retreat is always an option, it sounded like it wasn't an option here.

The beholder also went first in combat which at the beginning had my character pinned to a wall and two others petrified. There wasn't really a chance of retreat. On my turn I failed the save. Then got death rayed, and died. The other two got turned to stone.

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[Parmandur]

If everyone's characters were to die he still wouldn't let use the xanathars guide. ( I've asked this to him) because he doesn't have the book.

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Sounds like he's fishing for a Christmas gift.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Sounds like he's fishing for a Christmas gift.

This thread, and ones like it, is why I advocate having multiple DMs in every group.

This DM needs to get over himself, borrow the damn book, and stop focusing on getting “an edge” over the player characters.

editr just borrow the damn thing