Star Trek Discovery not getting any better I fear.

Hussar

Legend
Heh. Talk about different reactions.

I watched this and thought, damn, now there's a Star Trek episode. Hit all the notes just right. We care about the character that's going to die. Don't need to spend hours building up the character - get to the point and off we go.

I have to admit [MENTION=37579]Jester David[/MENTION] - I had pretty much the completely opposite reaction that you did.

Although, I have to agree, why didn't they just beam her off the ship? That would seem like the easiest solution.

Otherwise though, yup, this was pretty excellent Trek.
 

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Morrus

Well, that was fun
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I have to admit [MENTION=37579]Jester David[/MENTION] - I had pretty much the completely opposite reaction that you did.

Me too. I loved it. I have come to realise that [MENTION=37579]Jester David[/MENTION] is the anti-me.
 

I really enjoyed this episode, and I think that it worked great.
Sure, it seems a bit cheap to only really tell us more about Airam when she's about to die, but: We already wanted to know about her since Season 1, Episode 3, when she first appeared, and the interest only grew. And in the mean-time, she has become a familiar sight. And I would disagree that they tell, and not show - we see her interactions with others, several scenes specifically from her perspective. We see a lot about her internal feelings just because we know which memories she archives and which she deletes.
It’s a little like the TNG episode, The Lower Decks. Where we get a bunch of new characters, are given an hour to care about them, and then tragedy.
Only instead of someone introduced just for this episode, they fleshed out an extra.

I watched this and thought, damn, now there's a Star Trek episode. Hit all the notes just right. We care about the character that's going to die. Don't need to spend hours building up the character - get to the point and off we go.
Which was the problem. I didn’t care. It was too obvious.

They might as well have had her say it last day before retirement.

[video=youtube_share;MOk4hQXbGDs]https://youtu.be/MOk4hQXbGDs[/video]

It’s like a twelve episode season. If they did any planning in advance they could have set that up sooo much better. Two or three minutes easy episode. A couple shots of her interacting with Tilly and the helmswoman.

I gave Discovery a chance. And it’s improved in a lot of ways. But, man, it still feels like the showrunner is half making it up as they went along.
I know they have yet another showrunner taking over next year. So it could continue to improve. But I’m really not sure I care enough about this show to keep watching.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
It’s a little like the TNG episode, The Lower Decks. Where we get a bunch of new characters, are given an hour to care about them, and then tragedy.
Only instead of someone introduced just for this episode, they fleshed out an extra.


Which was the problem. I didn’t care. It was too obvious.

They might as well have had her say it last day before retirement.

[video=youtube_share;MOk4hQXbGDs]https://youtu.be/MOk4hQXbGDs[/video]

It’s like a twelve episode season. If they did any planning in advance they could have set that up sooo much better. Two or three minutes easy episode. A couple shots of her interacting with Tilly and the helmswoman.

I gave Discovery a chance. And it’s improved in a lot of ways. But, man, it still feels like the showrunner is half making it up as they went along.
I know they have yet another showrunner taking over next year. So it could continue to improve. But I’m really not sure I care enough about this show to keep watching.

Had that discussion around episode 2 or 3. My wife is "Life is to short for below average TV". We are watching DS9 and yeah characters you care about helps.
 

I have to say that in true Star Trek fashion many things in the episode were overly dramatic, but having said that this was bar-none the most enjoyable episode of Discovery so far. The characters were on point, Pike was freaking awesome and that admiral is very cool. I started this thread to express my disappointment but imho the show has slowly morphed into something worth watching. Worth my time.

MK
 



MarkB

Legend
I felt that they did enough to give Ariam an emotional connection, but I do agree with Jester David's points about them missing some obvious solutions. Not only did I think that the security officer could easily have put her helmet back on, I found it silly that any of them took their helmets off at all, given the hostile location.

I did like the Spock / Burnham scenes, where Spock essentially called Burnham out on her whole centre-of-the-universe martyr complex. Also his interactions with Stamets.
 



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