Star Trek Picard SPOILERS thread

[Zardnaar]

You are the most evasive person I've ever spoken to. You don't answer a single question put to you. You should be a politician. It's not a conversation, it's just a series of non sequiters.

You directly asked what is the correct Klingon, I told you how's that evasive?

To me the early movies, DS9 and TNG are my idea if a Klingon.

TOS they didn't really have a budget and made things up as they went along.

 

[Zardnaar]

Season Two of discovery had some of the Klingons "grow their hair" back to the TNG crimped-look, and it showed that they weren't as far away from the previous Klingon design as it seemed at first. Also, they came up with the idea of "Clans" - many of which had more old-style features from various Trek-eras.

They did the same thing in Picard with Romulans. Some of them looked just like the Kelvin-verse movie version (Nero and his crew) while others looked like TNG Romulans, and a few looked really old-school. The idea, I think, is to show that these aliens have as much variety to their ethnicities as us humans do (rather than, say, good-looking Hollywood white folk with facial lumps for every alien.)

I really like it. (And I, like you, thought Disco-Klingons were a step too far at first.)

As I said early STD I was a bit confused. I think that's supposed to be a Klingon but I'm not 100% sure. It was very clear fairly quickly they were supposed to be Klingons, didn't like it though.

Blame Worf. Greatest Klingon ever.

 

[Ryujin]

You are the most evasive person I've ever spoken to. You don't answer a single question put to you. You should be a politician. It's not a conversation, it's just a series of non sequiters.

Not a fan of the latest iteration, as I've said previously. I think that was change for change's sake.

 

[Ryujin]

As I said early STD I was a bit confused. I think that's supposed to be a Klingon but I'm not 100% sure. It was very clear fairly quickly they were supposed to be Klingons, didn't like it though.

Blame Worf. Greatest Klingon ever.

For the "greatest Kingon ever" and a supposed ultimate warrior type, he sure spent a lot of his time getting his arse handed to him

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Blame Worf. Greatest Klingon ever.

I agree, but that doesn't mean they all have to look like Michael Dorn! I think they were trying to solve the whole question of why they've looked so different over the years by explaining "there's a lot of different looking Klingons." (Same with Romulans in Picard). Problem is solved going forward, IMO.

Of course, Truth Seeker might say that it's because they didn't want to pay for the license to use the definitive Klingon-look. Maybe that's true!

 

[Morrus]

Generally retcons and extreme changes don't go over well.

Sure about that? The change from TOS to TNG was the most extreme Klingon change there has been in all of Trek history, and yet you say that you think the latter are "the best Klingons". Does that not show that extreme changes frequently do go over extremely well?

 

[Zardnaar]

Not a fan of the latest iteration, as I've said previously. I think that was change for change's sake.

This just don't like the look. To much CGI as well.

I quite like STIV the one with the whales. Flasy special effects not needed.

 

[Janx]

You are the most evasive person I've ever spoken to. You don't answer a single question put to you. You should be a politician. It's not a conversation, it's just a series of non sequiters.

Isn't Zardnaar the one who's writes long posts about what's wrong with Star Wars and maybe kinda doesn't like it anymore.

aka, a toxic fan.

I think the rest of us may have quibbles about various iterations of the show, but when it comes on, we watch and usually enjoy it. That's healthy.

Spending too much time talking about something you don't like? Not healthy. It's toxic.

 

[Waller]

Isn't Zardnaar the one who's writes long posts about what's wrong with Star Wars and maybe kinda doesn't like it anymore.

Turns all Sar Wars threads into rants about The Last Jedi, so nobody can ever talk about Star Wars? Yep, that's him!

 

[Zardnaar]

Sure about that? The change from TOS to TNG was the most extreme Klingon change there has been in all of Trek history, and yet you clearly state that you think the latter are "the best Klingons". Does that not clearly lend the lie to your claim that extreme changes don't go over well, and show that they frequently do, indeed, fo over extremely well?


Toxic= anyone who disagrees with me.

And you're still ignoring this. If you intend to just ignore that you said it, let me know, and I'll stop asking. I don't want to be a pest. Just say the word; let me know you don't stand by it. Otherwise, I'll keep asking until you actually answer.
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Your statement to me seemed aggressive. You've point blank told people to stop watching stuff despite some hoping things get better.

Or people do stop watching and ratings end up in the toilet. When shows don't get enough eyeballs they get cancelled.