D&D 5E New class options in Tasha

[Crimson Longinus]

I've always been a fan of rebuilding and retraining rules generally.

Buyers remorse is not fun. The game loses nothing by allowing such swaps later on (as long as there is a slight opportunity cost or time limit to be served to so switch).

Well, the spell versatility goes far beyond that, it allows swapping spells on every long rest.

And whilst it makes sense to allow some amount of rebuilding, I think that just shouldn't be the default approach and should be agreed with the GM on case by case basis. It is just weird for characters to forget abilities they used to have and it can also encourage bizarre min-maxing (this feature is good at these levels, but then I get that feat on the higher level I swap it to this other one.) Perhaps some people don't mind that, but It kinda rubs me the wrong way.

 

[Flamestrike]

Well, the spell versatility goes far beyond that, it allows swapping spells on every long rest.

And whilst it makes sense to allow some amount of rebuilding, I think that just shouldn't be the default approach and should be agreed with the GM on case by case basis. It is just weird for characters to forget abilities they used to have and it can also encourage bizarre min-maxing (this feature is good at these levels, but then I get that feat on the higher level I swap it to this other one.) Perhaps some people don't mind that, but It kinda rubs me the wrong way.

Its one spell per Long rest. Its no big deal seeing as Clerics, Paladins and Wizards can swap them out at will already and it really only benefits Rangers and Sorcerers and they can use the help.

Pretty easily fluffed also. I mean they can all already do it on level up anyway.

I dont see it as benefiting meta gaming. I see it more as helping people avoid buyers remorse and being a little more forgiving on players with less system mastery from decision paralysis on leveling up, both of which are good things that outweigh the bad.

 

[Minigiant]

I think that the spell versatility and martial versatility are just awkward patches for making the feature choices too limiting to begin with. Like perhaps certain caster classes should simply have more spells knows, and perhaps it is not actually a good idea to force fighting classes to commit to one weapon type at the first level? (Like aren't feats supposed to be for that sort of specialisation?)

Well warriors in D&D are generalists by default. They end up specializing do to their ability scores nudging them in a direction or the cost for specialization being cheap.

The versatility options do feel like patches for the narrow-minded design of the team. However in universe the patches make sense as people do let skills dull while honing knew ones.

Just the relative ease of training by these rules oozes of "we don't want to errata the PHB so we are letting you swap things easy".

Hopefully in 5.5e or 6e this isn't needed or made into a racial attribute instead.

 

[WayOfTheFourElements]

I've always been a fan of rebuilding and retraining rules generally.

Buyers remorse is not fun. The game loses nothing by allowing such swaps later on (as long as there is a slight opportunity cost or time limit to be served to so switch).

To my mind, the solution to buyer's remorse is "talk to the DM."

 

[Helldritch]

I hated the UA when it got out. I still hate these options.
The goal of a sorcerer is to be "stuck" with his choice (I allow a change on level up). But being able to change things overnight... no way. Not at my table. The more I hear of this book, the less I think I'm going to buy it.

 

[The Crimson Binome]

The point of playing a sorcerer is that I don't want to have to re-think my spells everyday. It's just too much work. But with this option in place, my laziness could potentially get everyone killed. If I wanted that sort of burden, I would have made a wizard.

 

[Umbran]

Barbarian gets danger sense and survival instincts, plus fast movement and instiinctive pounce.

In the UA document, Survival Instincts replaces Danger Sense. You don't get both. Same for Fast Movement/Instinctive Pounce. If you use the new class ability, you don't get the old one.

 

[Gradine]

Players: Sorcerers are garbage because they know fewer spells than a Wizard can prepare. Give Sorcerers more versatility
WotC: OK, check out this UA
Players: Ugh what is this spell versatility garbage, Sorcerers are supposed to be extremely limited, what is wrong with you

 

[i_dont_meta]

To each their own, but from what I understand the Class Feature UA was one of the highest overall rated UA's to date, hence Crawford stating that most of what we saw was making it to publication. We must just have a really concentrated pool of oppositionists here. My group is anticipating this book, collectively, more than any other release to date.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Players: Sorcerers are garbage because they know fewer spells than a Wizard can prepare. Give Sorcerers more versatility
WotC: OK, check out this UA
Players: Ugh what is this spell versatility garbage, Sorcerers are supposed to be extremely limited, what is wrong with you

Just give them more spells known. Sorcerers are already devoid of clear mechanical identity so giving them a mechanic that makes them more like wizards just heightens that problem.