D&D 5E 20th level Sorcerer vs the world

[prabe]

If nothing happened, why would you do that? Metagame is inevitable. Haha ha

Because you have Alert, or a weapon of warning, or Foresight, and you know something's up, but you don't know what. You've never had that happen to you, that you knew something was going to happen right before it did? For some D&D characters, that happens, all the time.

 

[Hohige]

Also, scatter, if they've started dealing with AoE attacks.

HAAHHAHAHA, BUT against who???? and why?
ahahhaha

 

[Hohige]

Because you have Alert, or a weapon of warning, or Foresight, and you know something's up, but you don't know what. You've never had that happen to you, that you knew something was going to happen right before it did? For some D&D characters, that happens, all the time.

No.
You just act on your first turn. nothing more. It's how cannot be suprise works.
HAhahaha

 

[Earth2Carnifex]

hilarious scene .:

DM: Roll initiative
Player: OK, i win
DM: What are you going to do?
Player: What do I see?
DM: Nothing
Player: What's going on?
DM: You don't know.
Player: ???
DM: what are you going to do?
Player: I know the wtf.

Actually, it goes more like this:
DM: Roll initiative
Player: I rolled 20.
Sorcerer: No we are not in combat! No Initiative!
DM: Okay, I rolled an 18 for you.
Player: Okay, so I go first.
DM: Yes, what are you going to do?
Player: Am I surprised?
DM: No, you have alert
Player: I don't see anything, but I know something is wrong?
DM: Correct
Player: I Misty Step 60 feet into the woods to my right where I have cover.
DM: Okay Sorcerer, it is your turn, what do you do?
Sorcerer: No Fair, No fair, DM FIAT!

 

[prabe]

I'm acting normally, controlling them with imperceptible spells.
Fot them, nothing happens.

If you're casting spells on them, they're involved in the combat, and they get to roll Initiative.

This is only a difficult concept for you, I presume, because it eliminates the possibility of autowinning everything without the possibility of actual opposition; that's not the experience D&D 5E is built to deliver, which is why the mechanics of it are working so hard against you here.

 

[Zio_the_dark]

@Hohige again just play a game with REAL players I think you'll be disappointed by your own dreams. I'm not metagaming here...

 

[Hohige]

If you're casting spells on them, they're involved in the combat, and they get to roll Initiative.

This is only a difficult concept for you, I presume, because it eliminates the possibility of autowinning everything without the possibility of actual opposition; that's not the experience D&D 5E is built to deliver, which is why the mechanics of it are working so hard against you here.

There is a reaction, if they had managed to notice him.

 

[prabe]

No.
You just act on your first turn. nothing more. It's how cannot be suprise works.
HAhahaha

And if your first turn comes before the ambusher's first turn, you get to go before the ambusher does.

It's as clear as water.

Ha haha hahahahahaha ha haha ha.

 

[Hohige]

@Hohige again just play a game with REAL players I think you'll be disappointed by your own dreams. I'm not metagaming here...

Last time I played Shadow Sorcerer level 4, stealth casting I killed 4 ogre mages alone with Subtle Mental Spike.
It was funny, they lost and didn't know what happened.

 

[prabe]

There is a reaction, if they had managed to notice him.

Which means they're in Initiative.

If you're controlling them (or attempting to--I think even you have to admit to the possibility they might save) then they're rolling Initiative to determine the order of their actions, anyway.

Your position has no real basis and doesn't hold together logically.