D&D 5E What do you want out of crafting rules?

[Vael]

Cue a very angry man.

Crafting a Crafting System – The Angry GM

The Angry GM finally chases down his white whale: hacking a crafting system for D&D that doesn’t actually suck. So, jump aboard the Pequod and come along. There's no way this can go wrong.

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I always go through stages of reading everything this man says like it's holy writ or getting overloaded by his ... flowery prose and just can't.

That said, this looks promising. I like the general assumptions and goals of this system.

 

[loverdrive]

I always go through stages of reading everything this man says like it's holy writ or getting overloaded by his ... flowery prose and just can't.

That said, this looks promising. I like the general assumptions and goals of this system.

The fact that he "obscures" swearing is the thing that puts me off the most. Like, dude, just write the bad words, or does your mother read your blog?

 

[Maxperson]

I want a reason to use the crafting rules. In most edition/games that I've seen rules for crafting in, the vast majority of the time it's faster and easier to just buy the thing than to gather together what you need to make it. Not just faster and easier, but safer as well, since you can generally fail the crafting roll and not even make what it is you are trying to craft.

 

[dave2008]

I want a reason to use the crafting rules. In most edition/games that I've seen rules for crafting in, the vast majority of the time it's faster and easier to just buy the thing than to gather together what you need to make it. Not just faster and easier, but safer as well, since you can generally fail the crafting roll and not even make what it is you are trying to craft.

maybe crafting rules are for games that don't have magic shops?

 

[Mind of tempest]

maybe crafting rules are for games that don't have magic shops?

or to explain where the magic shops get things?

 

[Maxperson]

maybe crafting rules are for games that don't have magic shops?

I didn't read the whole thread, so I was under the impression that the crafting rules were for all types of crafting, not just magic items. My thought was more along the lines of why track down steel stock(if you don't have to make the steel itself) and a forge when you can just buy the longsword?

I prefer magic items to be found or given as rewards, not created or bought. If you can just buy them or make them, a lot of their mystery and allure goes away.

 

[tetrasodium]

or to explain where the magic shops get things?

Or so a player can be an informed customer of a magic shop by proactively making intelligent purchasing requests rather "do you have a luckblade? what about a flametongue? What abbout a lifestealer, what about a ... what about a ...." The shopkeeper can by exension set reasonable expectations

 

[dave2008]

I didn't read the whole thread, so I was under the impression that the crafting rules were for all types of crafting, not just magic items. My thought was more along the lines of why track down steel stock(if you don't have to make the steel itself) and a forge when you can just buy the longsword?

I think that is how most players thinking. Crafting rules are for those you think differently?

I prefer magic items to be found or given as rewards, not created or bought. If you can just buy them or make them, a lot of their mystery and allure goes away.

Me too. I don't generally have magic shops in my settings. Magic items are rare and wonderous things that can't generally be bought and sold in most of my games.

 

[DND_Reborn]

Here is an example of what I am working on:

I'm not sure if this is what many people want (I haven't had time to read through the thread), I am really doing it for my own groups and my goal is to do all the magic items in the DMG.

 

[dave2008]

Here is an example of what I am working on:
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I'm not sure if this is what many people want (I haven't had time to read through the thread), I am really doing it for my own groups and my goal is to do all the magic items in the DMG.

Very interesting and quite a monumental task. I think something like this would find a decent market on teh DMsGuild. I do have on suggestion:
It is stated that failing by 5 or more ruins the cloak. I think that seems a bit harsh, conversely, I don't see a drawback for simply failing. If you want degrees of failure, maybe something like this:

• Failed check: increase time required by 50% (+25 days in this case)
• Failed check by 5-9: double time & 2x cost (+50 days & +2000gp)
• Fail by 10 or more: ruined

Thus, on a failure it can be recovered, but it may not be worth it (financially and time) to do so. It gives the player some agency and if you want to through in additional check, it is a gamble too.