D&D and the rising pandemic

[Umbran]

To be fair, being hit less hard than the mainland of the United States isn't exactly anything to brag about. LOTS of places were less effected than the US. "Hit less hard than the US" is a very low bar.

Strike that. Reverse it. He's comparing to New Zealand. Saying you got hit harder than some of the least-affected places on the globe is not saying you got hit hard.

It might not be much compared to mainland USA but it's not close to normal.

Hawaii's death rate was about 4% higher than normal due to covid. That is, in fact, not far from normal.

 

[Ryujin]

Strike that. Reverse it. He's comparing to New Zealand. Saying you got hit harder than some of the least-affected places on the globe is not saying you got hit hard.



Hawaii's death rate was about 4% higher than normal due to covid. That is, in fact, not far from normal.

And (unfortunately) probably well within annual statistical deviation.

 

[CleverNickName]

My wife and I are fully vaccinated, and it's been more than 2 weeks since our last shot. Mask requirements are relaxing in our state, and businesses are still starting to open. But we aren't relaxing. We still work from home, we still stay home whenever we can, and when that's not possible we still wear masks and practice social distancing. We have no desire to stop anytime soon.

And it's not fear or paranoia, at least not for me...it's anger, resentment. Relaxing the mask requirement should be a relief, but two minutes on social media reminds us that we still can't trust our fellow citizens to do what's right for the sake of public health. We have learned that there are people here who value their own comfort and convenience (and bottom lines) over the lives and safety of strangers, and it makes it really hard to want to associate with them.

Dinner at home with a handful of my close friends? Sure!

Restaurant full of strangers? Pass.

 

[Umbran]

And (unfortunately) probably well within annual statistical deviation.

For the nation overall, it seems that the normal variation in death rate is about +/- 2%. So, covid represents a 20% increase in the death rate overall in the nation, which is huge.

In a smaller, sub-population, you should expect that variation can increase, but the state's population is large enough that its own rate should be pretty stable. So, it may be within the normal variation, but not by much.

 

[GreyLord]

So, it appears the US had a preliminary estimate of the actual COVID-19 deaths (I think from last year). It is done the same way that the Flu Deaths are calculated each year.

PRELIMINARY (that means that it could go up or down, it's not the final estimate, that won't be done for months, if not years) numbers seem to indicate over 900,000 actual deaths in the US from Covid-19. Much higher than the official count...even the current official count.

That is if I heard correctly on it.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

So, it appears the US had a preliminary estimate of the actual COVID-19 deaths (I think from last year). It is done the same way that the Flu Deaths are calculated each year.

PRELIMINARY (that means that it could go up or down, it's not the final estimate, that won't be done for months, if not years) numbers seem to indicate over 900,000 actual deaths in the US from Covid-19. Much higher than the official count...even the current official count.

That is if I heard correctly on it.

Wouldn’t exactly be a surprise- many experts have been saying all along that the official counts were off...to the low side. Some claimed the undercount could be off by 1/3 to 1/2.

...and that’s with us being relatively accurate. Some countries still have insufficient testing to have reasonable estimates of infection or death rates. And some in India are claiming the official numbers are 1/10 of reality.

 

[Zardnaar]

So, it appears the US had a preliminary estimate of the actual COVID-19 deaths (I think from last year). It is done the same way that the Flu Deaths are calculated each year.

PRELIMINARY (that means that it could go up or down, it's not the final estimate, that won't be done for months, if not years) numbers seem to indicate over 900,000 actual deaths in the US from Covid-19. Much higher than the official count...even the current official count.

That is if I heard correctly on it.

In most countries the official numbers are known cases only. Seems reasonable the numbers are estimates only.

 

[Hussar]

Wouldn’t exactly be a surprise- many experts have been saying all along that the official counts were off...to the low side. Some claimed the undercount could be off by 1/3 to 1/2.

...and that’s with us being relatively accurate. Some countries still have insufficient testing to have reasonable estimates of infection or death rates. And some in India are claiming the official numbers are 1/10 of reality.

Japan is in this boat. Just had a smaller testing in my city and 8% positive rate or something like that. Who knows if they are even close to telling the truth.

 

[Umbran]

Japan is in this boat. Just had a smaller testing in my city and 8% positive rate or something like that. Who knows if they are even close to telling the truth.

So, there's no one generic "testing" - what the testing rate is/should be, and what the rate ultimately means, depends entirely on the population you are choosing to test, and why. "Smaller testing," can easily indicate a smaller group that, by selection, is much higher in rate than the general populace, for example.

 

[Garthanos]

So, there's no one generic "testing" - what the testing rate is/should be, and what the rate ultimately means, depends entirely on the population you are choosing to test, and why. "Smaller testing," can easily indicate a smaller group that, by selection, is much higher in rate than the general populace, for example.

Yeh the meaning is really all over the place. Here I get the impression without symptoms testing is almost never done. (although before surgery is an exception)