D&D 5E Is Paladine Bahamut? Is Takhisis Tiamat? Fizban's Treasury Might Reveal The Answer!

According to WotC's James Wyatt, Fizban's Treasury of Dragons introduces a new cosmology for dragon gods, where the same beings, including Fizban, echo across various D&D campaign settings with alternate versions of themselves (presumably like Paladine/Bahamut, or Takhisis/Tiamat). Also... the various version can merge into one single form.

Takhisis is the five-headed dragon god of evil from the Dragonlance setting. Paladine is the platinum dragon god of good (and also Fizban's alter-ego).

Additionally, the book will contain psychic gem dragons, with stats for all four age categories of the five varieties (traditionally there are Amethyst, Crystal, Emerald, Sapphire, and Topaz), plus Dragonborn characters based on metallic, chromatic, and gem dragons.

D&D 5E - Check out Fizban's Alternate Cover!

WotC's James Wyatt talked to Polygon about Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, which also revealed the alternate cover, which you can only get from hobby stores. https://www.enworld.org/threads/fizbans-treasury-the-dragon-book-now-has-a-description-and-a-feat.681399/

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D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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[Parmandur]

5E is weird in that she's been described as both Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil. The Forgotten Realms wiki even lists it as such (while also noting prior editions have had her as solidly Lawful Evil). Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes even describes her as a force of chaos in a plane of law and speculates that the Lawful Evil abishai devils are her jailors.

Pretty sure that 5E has been pretty consistent on the Chaotic Evil angle, but D&D across time has been swinging back and forth.

Which when you think about it, is pretty Chaotic.

 

[Umbran]

Then do that, nothing is stopping you.

I am aware. I am also aware that this site exists for expressing and discussion opinions about gaming materials.

i mean this was WotC story for 3e, 4e, and 5e (DMG), why are people getting back in such a big fuss now.

A few sentences on a messageboard is not "a big fuss".

How about you let folks talk about what they want to talk about, rather than discourage them from stating their opinions.

 

[TheIdeaOfGood]

I can't recall what book it was, but didn't Conan basically cast Speak with Animals at some point? By drawing a rune in the earth if I remember right.

Sort of. He'd figured out that the picts had been in league with some of the beasts of the wilderness because their shaman knew the primal language once shared by both men and beasts. He'd once picked up this rune and was drawing it to keep the creatures from following him. Happened in " Beyond the Black River".

He didn't know any magic and didn't really trust it due to nearly all mages he met being monstrous but he was a tremendously practically-minded person as well as quite learned and smart, much unlike the typical depictions of barbarians in most genre-fiction today. In " Jewels of Gwahlur"he was even able to translate a dead language.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Pretty sure that 5E has been pretty consistent on the Chaotic Evil angle, but D&D across time has been swinging back and forth.

Which when you think about it, is pretty Chaotic.

The PHB says Lawful Evil. Also all previous editions says Lawful Evil.

 

[Hexmage-EN]

Come to think of it, did 5E introduce the concept of Tiamat being imprisoned in Avernus as opposed to just having her lair there? I'll admit I mostly know of Tiamat from 4E's default setting, where she was in a completely different plane and warred with another god for dominance. I know at least that in 1E Tiamat was in charge of Avernus herself (I think).

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

I am also aware that this site exists for expressing and discussion opinions about gaming materials.

Absolutely, isn't that what we are doing?

A few sentences on a messageboard is not "a big fuss".

One person can make a big fuss, and I think it is OK if I don't understand why someone would make any fuss. It is OK if I have differing opinion.

How about you let folks talk about what they want to talk about, rather than discourage them from stating their opinions.

Really? You are actively trying to shut me down while I was simply discussing different viewpoints.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

That is nearly the polar opposite meaning of anything in the Republic,

I wasn’t saying anything about the meaning intended in the damn Republic, as I have already stated.

Using the allegory of the cave to describe people from “over there” who just “don’t know what we know, the poor dumb berks” is what I referred to.

This isn’t complicated.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

But you can still have all of that. This story changes nothing with the stories you want to tell. Everything is as you want it. This just adds another layer that can be compelling ignored with no consequences. It doesn’t affect your games at all

Yes, it does.

 

[Parmandur]

Yes, it does.

Does WotC send their agents to disrupt your games normally...?

 

[Parmandur]

I wasn’t saying anything about the meaning intended in the damn Republic, as I have already stated.

Using the allegory of the cave to describe people from “over there” who just “don’t know what we know, the poor dumb berks” is what I referred to.

This isn’t complicated.

Them what are calling Primes berks might not know as much as they imagine. Not a big fan of the 90's Planescape prose style and forced Cockney slang, but that doesn't take away from the appeal of a shared cosmology for some of us. Which is equally gnorable.