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Looks like Spelljammer and/or Planescape is back on the menu!

 

[Chaosmancer]

Sure it is, only a very few elites ever read his writings, so if you want to know what most people believed, it's no good looking at Aristotle.

He led science up a whole bunch of blind alleys. Four elements bollocks! You can't learn about the world by thinking about it, you have to look at it.

I think you are in a bit in a bubble with regards to the popularity of steampunk.

Agreed.

Okay, I'm not usually the guy to point this out, but when we are beginning to debate the merits of logical thought versus pure observation... I think we might have hit a tail end. I would think it is obvious that you need both, and that while Aristotle didn't invent modern science, some of his ideas were incredibly influential and almost right. Which, for a guy who just sat around and talked about the world, is damn impressive.

 

[overgeeked]

Shouldn't the survey have landed by now?

 

[Hatmatter]

Shouldn't the survey have landed by now?

It was due to touchdown but the spelljamming ship that was to deliver it got lost somewhere in the Astral Sea. Their compass said, "pass through the phlogiston," but they couldn't find that so they swerved portside when they ought to have gone starboard.

 

[Maxperson]

Sorry, but what is the speed of the spelljamming helms, and the distance between the crystal spheres?

I have a feeling about WotC wants to allow space about future "crossovers" with sci-fi, something like modules "Expedition to the Barrier Peaks" and "City of Gods", and a "hidden pilot episode" for possible spin-offs.

But high-tech can break the power balance too easily in a D&D game.

"When a ship is travelling at spelljamming speed, regardless of its tactical SR, it can travel 100 million miles per day, or 4 million mph"

 

[Parmandur]

Okay, I'm not usually the guy to point this out, but when we are beginning to debate the merits of logical thought versus pure observation... I think we might have hit a tail end. I would think it is obvious that you need both, and that while Aristotle didn't invent modern science, some of his ideas were incredibly influential and almost right. Which, for a guy who just sat around and talked about the world, is damn impressive.

Aristotle wasn't primarily a philosopher, y'all, he was a practicing physician and veterinarian. Granted that I'd take any modern doctor over Aristotle for medical advice, but he was very hands on with practical observations of the real world on the ground in a proto-scientific manner, even if it was not yet science.

 

[Demetrios1453]

Aristotle wasn't primarily a philosopher, y'all, he was a practicing physician and veterinarian. Granted that I'd take any modern doctor over Aristotle for medical advice, but he was very hands on with practical observations of the real world on the ground in a proto-scientific manner, even if it was not yet science.

The thing with Aristotle was that he was just so comprehensive. He wrote on basically everything. And his ideas were on the surface sensible, as long as no one started rigorously applying the scientific method to them. Which no one really did for thousands of years - after all, when you have someone who basically covers all knowledge, why question his conclusions?

 

[Parmandur]

The thing with Aristotle was that he was just so comprehensive. He wrote on basically everything. And his ideas were on the surface sensible, as long as no one started rigorously applying the scientific method to them. Which no one really did for thousands of years - after all, when you have someone who basically covers all knowledge, why question his conclusions?

I mean, he gets the blame for when he was wrong, but he had some in the W column, too. Even with practical experiments, a lot of his ideas (or more accurately, the Greek cultures ideas) held up in practice: more often it was the model that was wrong, not the practical implications.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I mean, he gets the blame for when he was wrong, but he had some in the W column, too. Even with practical experiments, a lot of his ideas (or more accurately, the Greek cultures ideas) held up in practice: more often it was the model that was wrong, not the practical implications.

Indeed. I don't think the issue was whether Aristotle got it right or wrong, it's that his reputation was TOO BIG. There was exactly the same issue with Newton centuries later (and maybe Einstein now). The person is so famous that everyone is afraid to challenge them, and when they do they get laughed out of town. And that holds back new advances. In science, famous names are bad. Take the name off and look at the evidence.

 

[overgeeked]

I'm not sure why they're holding the survey. They usually drop after one or two weeks. This is week three. I guess they could be waiting for the people who hate Spelljammer to calm down. Shrug.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I'm not sure why they're holding the survey. They usually drop after one or two weeks. This is week three. I guess they could be waiting for the people who hate Spelljammer to calm down. Shrug.

maybe they are going to add something else at the same time?