Wheel of Time Discussion - Spoilers(with book spoilers)

[Maxperson]

Have they even said in the show what country the Two Rivers is from? Or made many comments about how rare strangers are? I don’t think that the show has made any strong attempts to do so, where as in the books this is all very specifically stated.

Yes. Moiraine goes on at some length about Manetheren and how the Two Rivers folk are from there. I think she even says the old blood runs true in the Two Rivers. Further, they make a point to talk about when the peddler Padan Fain comes, excited to be getting a visitor. The strong implication is that they do get visitors, but that they aren't that common.

 

[Bolares]

I think if Two Rivers was THAT isolated and homogenous, Rand being adopted couldn't be a surprise for him... He is clearlly different from the people he grew up with and neither him or anyone else questioned that until Moiraine came around?

 

[Demetrios1453]

They have an 8 Season outline, and apparently Amazon is hardliners about 8 episode Seasons. So, we are looking at the whole story being condensed into about 64 episodes, though I hope the Last Battle gets a feature length treatment.

The showrunner said recently that Mat is skipping straight to his Book 3 plot for Season 2, and they have cast characters from Book 3 fornSeason 2, so a mix of Great Hunt and Dragon Reborn seems likely, and 2 books a season moving forward.

Mat doesn't do anything exciting in Book 2 other than blowing the Horn. Other than that he's a jerk who is wasting away....

 

[Demetrios1453]

I’m sorry, that’s not a dig at you. It was a reference to the fact that in the age of legends people were beyond racism and didn’t segregate. I just don’t understand what is sloppy about genetic makeup being mixed across lands, following an enlightened time like this.

If the genetic make up in the mountain town is mixed to start with… then it isn’t going to resemble any one particular group in 500 years time. Also don’t forget that the Edmonds Fielders are descents of a massive city. It’s like if something indiscriminately wiped out 99.5% of Londoners and the survivors started again.

So magic can alter physics, but not biology?

 

[Parmandur]

I think if Two Rivers was THAT isolated and homogenous, Rand being adopted couldn't be a surprise for him... He is clearlly different from the people he grew up with and neither him or anyone else questioned that until Moiraine came around?

Tam Al'Thor's wife was a redhead from outside the Two Rivers, so there was some plausible deniability. Basically everyone questions Rand's ethnicity once they leave the tight-knit community where people mind there own business, though.

 

[Bolares]

Tam Althouse wife was a redhead from outside the Two Rivers, so there was some plausible deniability. Basically everyone questions Rand's ethnicity once they leave the tight-knit community where people mind there own business, though.

Yeah, but that goes in direct contradiction with the statement that two rivers is completelly isolated and has no outside influence. Those two statements seem pretty contradictory to me. (I know you are not making this argument)

 

[Bolares]

And from what I've read (they are just now getting on their horses to leave two rivers) the Emond's Field folk are VERY MUCH in each other's business (mainly those damned Coplins!)

 

[Mezuka]

Never finished the books. I'm okay with the series. The last episode was a bit underwhelming.

So they are five. Two will side with the light, two will side with the darkness. Rand will vacillate between the two until he chooses the light and wins the day. The End.

 

[Bolares]

I think the episode was kind of anticlimatic. It seems it does a good job of being half of the first arch of the series as a whole, but a bad endpoint for the season by itself.

 

[Parmandur]

I think the episode was kind of anticlimatic. It seems it does a good job of being half of the first arch of the series as a whole, but a bad endpoint for the season by itself.

The books ending is fairly abrupt and awkward: the original story outline, for a trilogy snort, had the first book end where the third book climaxes, and in retrospect that "opening trilogy" does feel like a tight unit.

Basically, the series ended needing nearly 5 books for every book Jordan thought he would need. Brevity was not his strong suit.