The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

[BookTenTiger]

 

[Cadence]

Some people just want what is traditional in D&D, but want it to come across as a more nuanced opinion. There's interesting worldbuilding with nuance and complex societies and morals (Eberron, Exandria, Dark Sun, etc), and there's simplistic, hack-and-slash worldbuilding where you get to kill everything on sight because they're basically all evil (WH40K). You can't both have complex and deep worldbuilding and whole cultures of people where everyone is somehow 100% evil all the time and genocide is okay.

I guess a good general rule is the "is-Genocide-okay-in-any-circumstance-ometer". If it is literally ever okay, the world isn't nuanced or "deep". If it isn't ever okay, then it can be.

I'd at least like a discussion of what is covered by geno- to be able to happen before acting like there was nuance.

Stories involving Borg, Aliens, Zombies, or Clemson Tiger Fans all feel like they end quickly and badly if you stop to talk. But then they have cured some Borg, there's a good Brood in Marvel comics, zombies have a Disney kids show, and... ah, found the safe one.

* :-( I failed my "I will not derail the thread roll, sorry. I tried to recover it though." I really don't want this one shut down!

 

[Cadence]

I wonder if looking at later westerns and some weird westerns could provide some good guidance on having some games with both nuance and high body counts. In the Gunsmoke radio show it clearly isn't belonging to a particular race/ethnicity that makes someone good or bad. There are bad people, and even they have legal rights, but if they draw on you or the bullets start flying they're all goners. And if you're pushed in to an impossible situation, you won't like it but you don't need to wait for them to draw or threaten you personally if they've got you outnumbered (sometimes it is bringing them in dead or alive,.even for the Marshall and Chester). And even in a war setting, the good guys let folks surrender and don't go after the non-combatants
Gunsmoke never had zombies or far realms creatures, but I assume Marshall Dillon would.have just taken them out.

 

[Ryujin]

"I especially love it when evil goblin mooks that we get to kill without moral repercussions are sentient, can beg for mercy, have babies, cultures, and speak languages that we don't bother to understand/learn. That makes it especially satisfying to kill them!"

I was going to make a thread the other day about how I like Goblinoids and the recent changes giving them Fey Ancestry in Mordenkainen Presents: Monsters of the Multiverse, and how it all shows that they're really the victims in the D&D Multiverse (their pantheon was dominated/massacred by Maglubiyet, they're now ruled by an evil tyrant god that enforces a certain culture/caste system on them that oppresses literally everyone in it, they are capable of good, and are just the victims of a major atrocity that included eugenics and genocide).

Now . . . I'm going to hold off of making that thread. It would be a bit awkward and divisive having one thread ongoing that said "Goblins should all be murdered on sight, and it should be satisfying to commit genocide against them" and "Goblinoids are actually victims of a major tragedy, and are quite possibly the single most victimized collection of races in all of D&D 5e's lore, except possibly the Duergar".

Cue Glorion breaking into the room where the humanoids are holding an Evil Anonymous support meeting and crying out, "DIE EVIL RACES!"

And some people actually think he's the hero in JourneyQuest?

 

[Asisreo]

Has anyone woken up and just had a seething hatred for a particular fantasy race? I do.

Just this morning I woke up and found out those darn humans tore down a beautiful treeline near my window! It's not mine, so I can't do anything about it, but now I have ugly tree stumps and giant machines in my view rather than nature as the druids intended it!

Oh well, I probably deserve it somehow lol

 

[Cadence]

Has anyone woken up and just had a seething hatred for a particular fantasy race? I do.

Just this morning I woke up and found out those darn humans tore down a beautiful treeline near my window! It's not mine, so I can't do anything about it, but now I have ugly tree stumps and giant machines in my view rather than nature as the druids intended it!

Oh well, I probably deserve it somehow lol

I'm sorry to hear about your trees

Given all the bad things they bring on a regular basis, it certainly is hard sometimes to keep positive about humans.

 

[Ryujin]

Has anyone woken up and just had a seething hatred for a particular fantasy race? I do.

Just this morning I woke up and found out those darn humans tore down a beautiful treeline near my window! It's not mine, so I can't do anything about it, but now I have ugly tree stumps and giant machines in my view rather than nature as the druids intended it!

Oh well, I probably deserve it somehow lol

Same thing just happened to a friend who lives in a more rural area of Ontario, Canada, when she was told that the grove would be there for at least 4 more years.

 

[Jfdlsjfd]

Has anyone woken up and just had a seething hatred for a particular fantasy race? I do.

I fear you have a problem with real life humans. Fantasy humans are much better.

 

[darjr]

I do not “wake”.

But ye best attend to mine.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I fear you have a problem with real life humans. Fantasy humans are much better.

"Misanthropy is the best thropy."

Moliere, indubitablement.