D&D (2024) 2024 PHB Feats and Misc discussion

[dave2008]

One thing they said about these starter feats is they want them to also work for characters whose schtick matches the feat. So they would want Tavern Brawler to be useful for a Monk.

And I almost fairly certain that they will not give bonus +1s to any of these Level 1 feats because they are only going to be used by characters who are already gaining +2/+1 from their chargen.

Yes, in the video they were explicit that level 1 feats will not have any ability bonuses.

 

[Horwath]

Yes, in the video they were explicit that level 1 feats will not have any ability bonuses.

not needed limitation, but whatever, easy to houserule/ignore.

 

[Neonchameleon]

I would rather have that Shove on Bonus action:
Here is my take on it:
+1 str, dex or con
1d6 unarmed
As Bonus action you can make one Unarmed attack or 5ft shove or prone.

Then that would make it the only first level feat to have a +1 to a stat. These feats aren't compared to the old baseline feats but to each other.

 

[Neonchameleon]

Also:I think I have not seen bonus action mentioned in the document anywhere.

From the orc

As an Orc, you have these special traits.​

Adrenaline Rush. You can take the Dash​

Action as a Bonus Action. When you do so, you​

gain a number of Temporary Hit Points equal to​

your Proficiency Bonus.​

It's in a couple of other places as well (Aardling Flight, Dwarf Stonecunning).

 

[Horwath]

Then that would make it the only first level feat to have a +1 to a stat. These feats aren't compared to the old baseline feats but to each other.

another bad decision and failure to admit mistake of 5E that feats are "optional"

1. Feats never should have been optional
2. All characters should have started with one feat
3. All feats should be comparable with each other as much as possible and being competitive with +2 to primary ability at level 4.

 

[dave2008]

not needed limitation, but whatever, easy to houserule/ignore.

For general use I think it is a good limitation (though this is just a playtest). Like you say, it is easy to ignore/change, but I think it is a good default.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Thanks! Knew it was one of the two, just couldn't remember which book. I will say though that even all the stuff they put in Xanathar's about Tools did not fix the system enough to my liking that I went back to the book's system. I still strip Tool profs from my game and add/change my Skills list to cover the holes I don't like.

Honestly I feel like Tool profs are a very half-arsed system and you've kind of nailed it by pointing out the mismatch with Skill profs. Xanathar's was heading in the right direction but it didn't get there.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

It should not work on monk at all.
Monk is better version of that feat.

Same as that awful weapon proficiency feat does not work on fighter as fighter has all weapon proficiencies.
But hey, I turned it into half feat so it works for monk somehow.

I don't like your Idea and think the designers do it better.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

From the orc

As an Orc, you have these special traits.​

Adrenaline Rush. You can take the Dash​

Action as a Bonus Action. When you do so, you​

gain a number of Temporary Hit Points equal to​

your Proficiency Bonus.​

It's in a couple of other places as well (Aardling Flight, Dwarf Stonecunning).

Thank you. I was forgetful.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Honestly I feel like Tool profs are a very half-arsed system and you've kind of nailed it by pointing out the mismatch with Skill profs. Xanathar's was heading in the right direction but it didn't get there.

Lets wait and see. And give feedback. Xanathar's was great. I want that in the PHB.