D&D (2024) 2024 PHB Feats and Misc discussion

[Charlaquin]

Regarding the new rules for crits, I don't think that they can really be evaluated without reading the new classes. For example, maybe rogues compensate the nerf in some other way, but without looking at the playtest rogue, it's hard to form an opinion.

Yeah, this is a real problem with introducing these changes one chunk at a time instead of a full vertical slice. We lack the necessary context to properly evaluate the rules glossary changes.

 

[Charlaquin]

One thing they said about these starter feats is they want them to also work for characters whose schtick matches the feat. So they would want Tavern Brawler to be useful for a Monk.

Which is a great move in my opinion.

And I almost fairly certain that they will not give bonus +1s to any of these Level 1 feats because they are only going to be used by characters who are already gaining +2/+1 from their chargen.

Jeremy said as much in the video. Well, he said “not increasing ability scores is a sign of a first level feat.” Which could be interrupted to mean that all Feats of higher than 1st level increase ability scores, but I don’t think that was his intent.

 

[Charlaquin]

The UA does mention that if you have a Tool and a Skill that are both applicable to a situation that you get to both add your prof bonus and roll with Advantage (I presume this comes out of Tasha's?)

Xanathar’s.

 

[Sir Brennen]

Which is a great move in my opinion.

Jeremy said as much in the video. Well, he said “not increasing ability scores is a sign of a first level feat.” Which could be interrupted to mean that all Feats of higher than 1st level increase ability scores, but I don’t think that was his intent.

Yeah, probably more like "first level feats don't have ASI's, but not all feats without ASI's are first level."

 

[Charlaquin]

Honestly I feel like Tool profs are a very half-arsed system and you've kind of nailed it by pointing out the mismatch with Skill profs. Xanathar's was heading in the right direction but it didn't get there.

Tool profs were designed in a context where checks were ability-first and proficiencies (be they skill, tool, or other) were an optional add-on, and make perfect sense in that context. Technically, that is still true of 5e as-written, but not how most DM’s actually run it.

 

[TwoSix]

Jeremy said as much in the video. Well, he said “not increasing ability scores is a sign of a first level feat.” Which could be interrupted to mean that all Feats of higher than 1st level increase ability scores, but I don’t think that was his intent.

Of course, making all feats into half-feats above 1st level could be a way to nerf some of the more problematic feats.

IIRC, the clear majority of feats in Tasha's were half-feats, also. Could be indicative of a design shift.

 

[Sir Brennen]

Of course, making all feats into half-feats above 1st level could be a way to nerf some of the more problematic feats.

IIRC, the clear majority of feats in Tasha's were half-feats, also. Could be indicative of a design shift.

Replacing ASIs or still a choice between them and feats, you think?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

It's mentioned in the ardling writeup.


And, on that subject, they've apparently re-nerfed Dragon Breath. Le sigh. Metallic, Chromatic, and Gem Dragonborn were nice while they lasted...

I think there is still time to correct that.

 

[Charlaquin]

maybe Toughness could give 4HP at 1st level and then 2HP per level, as in 2 steps in increasing your HD.
4HP would be noticable even for high HP classes(d10/d12)

I like that idea.

 

[Charlaquin]

I can only see one mention of Short Rest, and then it's not defined in the glossary ( whereas long rest gets a full write up?) Or are my ancient half-elf eyes fading????

You’re correct, presumably because long rests changed and short rests did not.