D&D (2024) Longsword finesse when used 2H

[tetrasodium]

I am perfectly happy with adding finesse to longsword and removing rapier from the game (or giving it something other then being the finesse longsword)

I largely agree on the rapier demotion but would rather it be a dedicated 2h only weapon like a meteor hammer nine section whip valenar double scimitar or whatever else fits. A versatile weapon known for sword & board is probably a bit too good for dex given all of the benefits it carries over strength.

 

[Horwath]

Elves no longer have longsword proficiency by default, and since ASIs are floating now, elves could make as much use of longsword proficiency as anyone else.

Anywho, I’m not sure two-handing really fits the image of the Dex-based fighter.

As someone who has some HEMA training(not a lot), I could say that this has some merit.

We trained with longswords, the historic 2Handed longswords, not Heavy as greatswords, but little too much to handle with one hand if you are not really strong.

and you can be a lot faster with two hands on a sword that has long handle and it relatively light. 1,2 - 1,5kg.

my practice sword(blunted) is 130cm long and has 1,3kg. that thing can move fast.


but only problem I have, it's one more boost to Dex...

I would rather see longsword be a d10(V d12) weapon based on STR and greatsword 2d8; 2Handed, heavy.

 

[TheSword]

In the Adventures in Rokugan rules for 5e by Edge Studios the long sword has been given the finesse keyword to create the Katana. Of course in that setting the Katana is ubiquitous so it’s ok that almost everyone will have one. In a normal D&D setting I think we would just see everyone using Longswords.

 

[Charlaquin]

As someone who has some HEMA training(not a lot), I could say that this has some merit.

Oh, it absolutely does. That’s why I said it doesn’t fit the image, not that it isn’t realistic.

 

[John R Davis]

No ta. Dex is already too much win so let's not add more strings to its bow, erm, sword

 

[Horwath]

No ta. Dex is already too much win so let's not add more strings to its bow, erm, sword

Yeah, we need more damage on STR based weapons.

Dex with rapier, shortsword and longbow is doing fine.

 

[aco175]

I would rather it be a feat, maybe tied with something else. Not sure what other than +1 Dex. Maybe something that lets you move or gives +1 to AC.

Maybe get rid of the rapier and have the LS just be the default rapier if we need a d8 finesse weapon, which I'm generally against.

 

[gorice]

Makes sense to me. Adds flavour without changing balance much. Dex doesn't really get a big boost compared to shield and rapier.

Dex being too good in general is a distinct issue.

 

[Bill Zebub]

To all the people saying that Dex is already too good, let’s not make it better, how does letting longswords be finesse when used two handed make Dex better? With the new dual wield rules it’s worse than two short swords.

It would really just be a flavor option.

 

[Laurefindel]

To all the people saying that Dex is already too good, let’s not make it better, how does letting longswords be finesse when used two handed make Dex better? With the new dual wield rules it’s worse than two short swords.

It would really just be a flavor option.

it give Dex-based martial access to a d10 weapon, which so far was only in the purview of Str-based characters (except heavy crossbow). I'm not really in the Dex-always-steals-the-show camp so I dont really care, but there's that...