She-Hulk: Attorney at Law trailer

[Dire Bare]

It was a mess. Some jokes really hit for me (like Daredevil's walk of shame) and some really fell flat. I enjoyed the commentary on the patriarchy, but I felt the show undermined a lot of it by making Jen so insecure as to cause a lot of her own problems.

I dunno... it was fine, I guess? I think my biggest problem with it is that it was very close to being good. It had everything it needed, but it didn't quite make it for me.

Jenn's insecurity is relatable, one of the more realistic aspects of her character. Most of us, IRL, do end up causing or contributing to our own problems.

 

[Dire Bare]

Even considering the episode started with an intro in the style of the Bixby/Ferrigno Hulk series.

That intro was fun! I'm glad they gave that too us before the season ended.

 

[MarkB]

At this point, "subverting expectations" has almost become a cliche over the past few years.

A lot of aspects of the final episode are things I would like if done in a better way. I think, in trying to be overly clever, something was lost in the execution of the idea.

Old-school Hulk into -awesome
Talking to the audience -cool
...even the ending was kinda cool
But the middle meat of the episode wasn't cooked right for me.

Yeah, that's where I landed. I've enjoyed the rest of the series, and I really liked what they were going for here, but they just didn't quite stick the landing. Fourth-wall breaking is funny, but is deliberately writing a bad ending purely in order to self-parody really better than just writing a good ending? I didn't want a big fight scene, but I did want Jen to confront her attackers on her own terms, and we wound up skipping that part and going straight to the end.

 

[Eric V]

I think my biggest problem with it is that it was very close to being good. It had everything it needed, but it didn't quite make it for me.

Funny, I have felt that way about all the Marvel shows. At least this one had Charlie Cox!

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Jenn's insecurity is relatable, one of the more realistic aspects of her character. Most of us, IRL, do end up causing or contributing to our own problems.

I didn't do a very good job of explaining what I didn't like about it. It's not that she was insecure in itself, it was something about the way that it was done. I'm not at my most articulate ATM. It has something to do with the confidence that is required to break the fourth wall (which she has WHEN she does that) but the rest of the time... everyone treats her like she's some kind of loser (including herself), which she clearly isn't.

 

[Tonguez]

I didn't do a very good job of explaining what I didn't like about it. It's not that she was insecure in itself, it was something about the way that it was done. I'm not at my most articulate ATM. It has something to do with the confidence that is required to break the fourth wall (which she has WHEN she does that) but the rest of the time... everyone treats her like she's some kind of loser (including herself), which she clearly isn't.

yeah that was jarring, Jen is a successful lawyer who worked in the DAs office and yet she is presented as an insecure loser who cant handle her personal life and frankly isnt a very good lawyer either.
that was the biggest issue for me, sure the take down of online trolls and males whining about the mcu had potential but the commentary was undermined by the writers missing the mark in various ways.

Or, you know, it's embracing the fan base that does like the Sensational She-Hulk's alternative takes on things like breaking the fourth wall with viewers and directly interacting with the writers to change the story. Sensational She-Hulk in the early 1990s established her as a character who is not just a "straight" superhero.
If the alternative is and end brawl to cap off the season, give me more of the self-referential comedy. The MCU can sustain the difference in perspective - I'd argue it even needs it to remain fresh.

just to be clear I thought the fourth wall breaks were the best parts of the show - I enjoyed John Byrne doing them in the comics too. But even those meta moments need to help tell the story

 

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She-Hulk Director Talks Kevin Feige's Role in MCU-Mocking Finale, Wanting [Spoiler] to Be Her 'Baby Yoda'

The following contains spoilers from the She-Hulk finale. Marvel’s image-conscious overlords had minimal notes on the She-Hulk: Attorney at Law season finale, which envisioned franchise boss …

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[Zaukrie]

There is no one, "the fanbase".



So, give a message about how the rest of things have gotten formulaic, but... then go follow the formula?



I think the patriarchal aspects of culture and fandom are a more interesting target than the usual supervillain faces for smashing.

Agreed on all points. They really attacked toxicity well

 

[Ogre Mage]

Thoughts having seen the entire season ...

--Tatiana Maslany was consistently excellent as both Jennifer Walters and She-Hulk. Her work on Orphan Black suggested she could handle an alter ego character adroitly and she did. Her casting suggests the creators were going for a sharp contrast between the Jen Walters/She-Hulk personas. Whereas casting someone like Gwendoline Christie would have suggested an equivalence between the two. Hopefully we will see more of Maslany.

--The series effectively introduced Daredevil into the MCU. He's less angsty and more powerful than he was on the Netflix series, but that was to be expected given this is the MCU and the show is She-Hulk: Attorney At Law. I do expect him to be a bit darker on his solo show in 2024. Charlie Cox adjusted well to this lighter tone and he and Tatiana Maslany have great chemistry on screen. Given that Daredevil/Matt Murdock returned during the finale and even attended a backyard barbecue with Jen's family (!) I think it is likely we will see these two together again in future shows/movies.

--The writing of the show was uneven and the pace sometimes felt disjointed and rushed. I can forgive that somewhat because She-Hulk was so willing to take chances, especially in the finale, which was unexpected and wild to say the least. It was a show that did NOT follow the standard MCU blueprint. I remember the She-Hulk fourth wall breaks from the comics but I had forgotten they sometimes got that extreme.

--I think the fact the show deviated so far from the MCU blueprint is why some people didn't like it. It was basically a 1/2 hour sitcom with relatively low stakes that happened to exist within the MCU. It wasn't what we are used to. But I like the change. I grew up in the era before prestige TV watching the sitcoms of the 1980s and 90s. It was fun to see this within the MCU. Not everything has to be stories where the world or the hero's life/loved one is at stake.

--Perhaps having seen the attacks against Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk correctly anticipated the backlash from certain (mostly male) quarters of the Internet and made them the principal villains of the season. I found this amusing, though incels probably didn't.

 

[p_johnston]

So let me start by saying I really liked She-Hulk. I don't think it's the best MCU series on D+ but (even accounting for recency bias) I do think it's going to land near the top of my list.

That being said I think my overall review of the show is "More clever then most of the D+ marvel series's so far but not as clever as it thinks it is."
Having the big bad of the season actually be just angry male internet trolls? Very clever and up to episode 8 very well done.
The ending of the series, although it did have high points, just felt kinda disappointing though. They essentially deliberately wrote a very naughty word ending, made a joke about doing so, and then used said joke to avoid having to write an actual ending. It wasn't the worst season finale they've done (cough cough Loki) but it wasn't great.

Also side note, Did anyone else wonder why Jen had her job back at the end of the show? Like I was under the impression that she lost her job because of the bad PR from her "Hulk out" at the end of episode eight. How does sueing the naughty words who provoked her magically fix that? Just a minor quibble overall but it annoyed me.