Ginny Di interviews WotC's Kyle Brink

Continuing the D&D executive producer's interview tour, gaming influencer Ginny Di asks a WotC's Kyle Brink about the OGL and other things.

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[mamba]

I don’t actually understand what this means.

I agree that there was some outrage from others as well, including ones that were done with WotC a long time ago.

I did not say the only ones alienated were the most loyal fans, but I would not count those that were not playing 5e and complaining amongst those that this move has alienated, they already were.

Would me including a mostly in that sentence, so it becomes ‘WotC mostly alienated their most loyal fans’ address your objection?

 

[mamba]

But I was assured dozens of times that it's no different than using a 2D map and tokens?!!

you were, by whom?

 

[Ondath]

you were, by whom?

I was being facetious, I said a 3D VTT wouldn't be as easy to use as a 2D one in another thread and got dozens of responses saying I was wrong a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Staffan]

I was being facetious, I said a 3D VTT wouldn't be as easy to use as a 2D one in another thread and got dozens of responses saying I was wrong a couple of weeks ago.

It probably wouldn't be much harder to use. It would be harder to design for.

 

[mamba]

It probably wouldn't be much harder to use. It would be harder to design for.

use as in the DM creating an environment in it, ie the equivalent of creating a 2d map. At least that is how I read it.

Playing in the finished version is not that different

 

[Fallen star]

We can finally put the whole "show me racist OGL material now, or it's not a problem" comments to rest.

Again, the word "race" was in every RPG product for 45 years. Then WotC decided the word was bad, so now every product is racist.

That's what happens when you agree to follow any standard that they can change after the fact.

 

[Loren the GM]

Again, the word "race" was in every RPG product for 45 years. Then WotC decided the word was bad, so now every product is racist.

That's what happens when you agree to follow any standard that they can change after the fact.

Plenty of other products, including Pathfinder 2e, moved away from the term race well before WotC did. Products were problematic because they were problematic, not because WotC moved some goal post.

 

[Justice and Rule]

Not sure that’s entirely true. Often the loudest voices disavowing WotC are the same voices that have spent years proudly proclaiming how they don’t actually buy anything from WotC and feel that WotC is no longer “their” DnD.

I mean, as someone who largely pushes his group to play other games, I still was considering the occasional WotC book purchase and maintained a continuing Hero-Tier subscription to DNDBeyond simply because people I knew ran it. I also still bought the miniatures when they had good stuff, but I can't comment on how much they make on those.. Even as a guy who rips DND a bunch, I still had regular cash-investment in it.

This whole idea of "The people who were most against this were the ones who weren't even involved in the system!" really seems to ignore that plenty of the influencers who made their money on the system were very against it. The outrage seemed pretty universal and I feel it doesn't accurately capture both the universal level of outrage and even the continued level of investment some of us who have "moved on" to other systems might still have.

 

[Sacrosanct]

Again, the word "race" was in every RPG product for 45 years. Then WotC decided the word was bad, so now every product is racist.

That's what happens when you agree to follow any standard that they can change after the fact.

That wasn't what I was referring to.

 

[Remathilis]

Again, the word "race" was in every RPG product for 45 years. Then WotC decided the word was bad, so now every product is racist.

That's what happens when you agree to follow any standard that they can change after the fact.

Did someone tell Paizo that? They dumped the term before WotC did.