D&D 5E Planescape shows up in the wild. Tease from Chris Perkins.

[Reynard]

ETA: The following is complete nonsense, based on a bad assumption (64 page books in the new set) and faulty memory (that 2E pages were more word dense than 5E pages). Completely wrong. I will own that.

Note that I say this as someone who never particularly liked Planescape:

WotC is pretty much guaranteed to be unable to do it justice based simply on the format. It is going to be necessarily shallow given the page count it has and how those pages are going to be distributed. This is known.

But here's the thing: I don't think people will care. If the success of 5E has shown us anything, it is that the current fanbase is not especially interested in deep lore or extensive libraries of supplements. it is working for them. We really can't expect it to change.

 

[Zaukrie]

Even for ENWorld, this thread is bonkers.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

His current style looks great and captures the weirdness of Planescape, and having the same guy, whose style has evolved, serves the same purpose as redoing Planescape in the first place.


And the Lady of Pain picture is far from cutesy.

Yeah! I think complaining about TD is a strange complaint. His art was awesome then and it's still awesome now, just matured. His stuff was always cartoony but with a level of realistic function and detail that a lot of other D&D art lacked. He's great.

 

[Zaukrie]

Even for ENWorld, this thread is bonkers.

Of course, the same people who always say WotC sucks are here....

 

[Micah Sweet]

Note that I say this as someone who never particularly liked Planescape:

WotC is pretty much guaranteed to be unable to do it justice based simply on the format. It is going to be necessarily shallow given the page count it has and how those pages are going to be distributed. This is known.

But here's the thing: I don't think people will care. If the success of 5E has shown us anything, it is that the current fanbase is not especially interested in deep lore or extensive libraries of supplements. it is working for them. We really can't expect it to change.

Yeah, the fact that the current fan base doesn't seem to care about depth anymore is the saddest thing about WotC's "stewardship" of D&D to me. It tells me things are just going to keep getting worse over there from my point of view, because too many people will just swallow whatever WotC puts out.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yeah! I think complaining about TD is a strange complaint. His art was awesome then and it's still awesome now, just matured. His stuff was always cartoony but with a level of realistic function and detail that a lot of other D&D art lacked. He's great.

Matured doesn't necessarily mean objectively better (if such a standard can even be applied to art). It might be better by WotC 5e's standards, but I still don't see it as better or as good than his older work.

 

[Imaro]

Note that I say this as someone who never particularly liked Planescape:

WotC is pretty much guaranteed to be unable to do it justice based simply on the format. It is going to be necessarily shallow given the page count it has and how those pages are going to be distributed. This is known.

But here's the thing: I don't think people will care. If the success of 5E has shown us anything, it is that the current fanbase is not especially interested in deep lore or extensive libraries of supplements. it is working for them. We really can't expect it to change.

How many pages was the original Planescape box set? I mean if you're expecting this book to cover the level of detail and information that the entire Planescape line for AD&D 2e did... well I'd say your expectations are the real problem.

 

[Reynard]

Yeah, the fact that the current fan base doesn't seem to care about depth anymore is the saddest thing about WotC's "stewardship" of D&D to me. It tells me things are just going to keep getting worse over there from my point of view, because too many people will just swallow whatever WotC puts out.

I mean, depth isn't in itself a necessarily good thing.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I mean, depth isn't in itself a necessarily good thing.

From my perspective, in the vast majority of cases, it is. Depth means more of everything, good and bad, and ignoring the bad is a heck of a lot easier than manufacturing the good.

 

[eyeheartawk]

How many pages was the original Planescape box set? I mean if you're expecting this book to cover the level of detail and information that the entire Planescape line for AD&D 2e did... well I'd say your expectations are the real problem.

In a vacuum yes, I agree. Though, given their history and stated publishing strategy this may very well be the only Planescape content we get in this edition. So, with that perspective, yeah the depth complaint has merit.