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D&D (2024) Here's The New 2024 Player's Handbook Wizard Art

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teitan

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1. I, too, can pick artwork from decades ago to define a concept and 2. I am entitled to an opinion you disagree with without you having to selectively choose 15-20 years ago to "clap back". You see you missed where I was merely expressing a preference and you are trying to objectively correct me on a subjective topic. Also Kovacs used to be a MTG artist. Nowhere do I say MtG art is bad etc. For reference 2023 art for MTG. Bye now.

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Cadence

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1. I, too, can pick artwork from decades ago to define a concept and 2. I am entitled to an opinion you disagree with without you having to selectively choose 15-20 years ago to "clap back". You see you missed where I was merely expressing a preference and you are trying to objectively correct me on a subjective topic. Also Kovacs used to be a MTG artist. Nowhere do I say MtG art is bad etc. For reference 2023 art for MTG. Bye now.

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I found the Otus Dragon. There's a Vance Kovacs I found for MtG work. Did Doug do some?

Was there a Secret Lair in the Poag style? (Edit: Anyone remember which one? Or am I imagining that?)

In any case, I wasn't trying to correct your taste. I was clapping back a bit at the idea that MtG had one single style any more than saying "D&D style" and meaning only this latest stuff.
 
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Parmandur

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I found the Otus Dragon. There's a Vance Kovacs I found for MtG work. Did Doug do some.

Was there a Secret Lair in the Poag style?

In any case, I wasn't trying to correct your taste. I was clapping back a bit that MtG had one single style any more than saying "D&D style" and meaning only this latest stuff.
Both MtG and D&D work to stay hip with current fantasy art trends, always have.
 

Epic Meepo

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I don't know, claiming to be a fantasy fan in the year 2024 and not having even heard of Neil Gaiman before tells me that one's conception of what the genre of fantasy is and contains hasn't progressed past the 1980's. Which is fine if that's what you prefer, but it makes one particularly ill-suited towards critiquing recent examples of the form
I hope you're not implying there's a required reading list for fans of the post-1980's fantasy genre. Modern fantasy is (and should remain) a large tent, not an exclusive club with gatekeepers checking everyone's "nerd cred" at the door. I'm sure there are plenty of modern fantasy fans who aren't familiar with Neil Gaiman.

As an aside, to anyone who hasn't yet read any of Neil Gaiman's stuff, I highly recommend his short story, A Study in Emerald. It's probably my all-time favorite short story. Definitely worth a read if you're a fan of Cthulhu, Sherlock Holmes, or both.
 

Hussar

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I hope you're not implying there's a required reading list for fans of the post-1980's fantasy genre. Modern fantasy is (and should remain) a large tent, not an exclusive club with gatekeepers checking everyone's "nerd cred" at the door. I'm sure there are plenty of modern fantasy fans who aren't familiar with Neil Gaiman.

As an aside, to anyone who hasn't yet read any of Neil Gaiman's stuff, I highly recommend his short story, A Study in Emerald. It's probably my all-time favorite short story. Definitely worth a read if you're a fan of Cthulhu, Sherlock Holmes, or both.
No one is saying you have to be a fan of Gaiman. But, if someone is a fan of fantasy, not even knowing who Gaiman is, is a bit like saying you've never heard of George RR Martin. I mean, multiple big movies, several TV series, and a raft of published works? It's a bit of a stretch to think that Gaiman is some niche writer that no one other than giant fantasy-philes like, say, Jack Vance, has ever heard of.
 

Cadence

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No one is saying you have to be a fan of Gaiman. But, if someone is a fan of fantasy, not even knowing who Gaiman is, is a bit like saying you've never heard of George RR Martin. I mean, multiple big movies, several TV series, and a raft of published works? It's a bit of a stretch to think that Gaiman is some niche writer that no one other than giant fantasy-philes like, say, Jack Vance, has ever heard of.
Not disagreeing with any of that, but it made me pull "Songs of the Dying Earth" from my shelf.

"Every now and again I've noticed myself crafting a Vance sentence, and it always makes me happy when I do-but he's not a writer I'd ever dare to imitate. I don't think he's imitable.
There are few enough of the writers I loved when I was 13 I can see myself going back to in twenty years from now. Jack Vance I will reread forever."
- Neil Gaiman
 

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