Spoilers Star Wars: The Acolyte [Spoilers]

[Zardnaar]

As I just said, it's quite possible she hasn't killed anyone, and therefore has no need of redemption.

Perhaps but see where it goes.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

As I just said, it's quite possible she hasn't killed anyone, and therefore has no need of redemption.

I mean, you could have both, very easily.

Mae appears to have killed two Jedi, is about to "kill" a third, gets cut down by an overzealous Yord just after Sol and others somehow find out that actually Mae hasn't killed anyone and is kind of in the right due to revelations about the events on the planet of her birth. Or worse, Yord knows she didn't kill the others and isn't simply overzealous, but decided execution of a potential threat is a Jedi duty. Mae might even go out in a semi-heroic or martyr-like way.

Then the Temple either backs Yord or attempts a whitewash/cover-up (the latter being extremely likely), and Osha witnesses all this, and goes "Actually Dark Side sounding pretty good right about now" and we have her as the acolyte.

Indeed this may even by Darth whoever's plan, given the "Kill the dream" stuff - the plan might to be cause maximum possible corruption/cover-up/two-faced-ness in the Jedi Temple, because that'll really help the Sith in future, the more compromised the Jedi Order is.

 

[CapnZapp]

There is no "good" sister and "evil" sister, they are both victims.

Sounds like we watched completely different shows.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Sounds like we watched completely different shows.

I mean, not really. Paul is just reading into the show a lot more deeply, whereas you're responding to the surface-level messaging. That doesn't mean he's right and you're wrong, note, but they're quite different approaches to reading the text. I'm reminded of countless English classes - there's always the very confident and not stupid person who has the most superficial and obvious possible reading of a text - and they're rarely completely wrong, but they're the guy who is very confident Frankenstein was "doing his best" and the monster was just that, a monster, and so on. That's certainly what ol' Franky himself thinks.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sounds like we watched completely different shows.

Maybe. Something happened the Jedi may or may not be responsible for.

Find out more tomorrow.

Speculation is fun it's just that though.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

but they're the guy who is very confident Frankenstein was "doing his best" and the monster was just that, a monster, and so on. That's certainly what ol' Franky himself thinks.

My partner believes Frankenstein is an allegory of post-natal depression.

 

[Reynard]

Scrolling through my feeds this morning would suggest that The Acolyte is the most divisive Star Wars thing ever and there is a civil war among fans.

I don't believe that. I think social media just amplifies outlier voices and toxicity by its very nature.

The Acolyte is fine. It isn't great. Maybe by the end it will be good. But I choose not to believe that Star Wars fandom is at war with itself over this show.

 

[MarkB]

I don't know if Mae is evil for going after these Jedi, but she's definitely willing to go to some nasty lengths. In her first fight she attacks innocents to provoke the Jedi, and then attempts a deadly strike against a bystander to force her opponent to leave an opening by saving him. If she truly believes this Jedi deserves death, she couldn't rely on her to save the bystander, so she's willing to risk deadly collateral in pursuit of her goal.

 

[Reynard]

I don't know if Mae is evil for going after these Jedi, but she's definitely willing to go to some nasty lengths. In her first fight she attacks innocents to provoke the Jedi, and then attempts a deadly strike against a bystander to force her opponent to leave an opening by saving him. If she truly believes this Jedi deserves death, she couldn't rely on her to save the bystander, so she's willing to risk deadly collateral in pursuit of her goal.

Star Wars has a weird relationship with capacity for evil and redemption. I mean, Anakin was redeemed even though he murdered a room full of 7 year olds.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I don't believe that. I think social media just amplifies outlier voices and toxicity by its very nature.

Yeah I don't buy it either. I see it getting downvoted in places where people can review-bomb it and stuff, but it reeks of an organised 4Chan campaign-type deal. It just lacks any real point that people could be honestly mad about en masse.

I think part of the issue is that every awful clickbait hatefest YouTuber, streamer and so on had a video or was expecting to be able to create one, about how utterly rubbish The Acolyte was, and then... it wasn't rubbish. Maybe not stellar, but pretty watchable. So now they're trying desperately to astroturf hate. I don't think it's going to work very well.

But I choose not to believe that Star Wars fandom is at war with itself over this show.

Agree. If that was true we'd see some sign of it here. A genuine "at war with itself" was TLJ (let's not relitigate it right now!), but the only hate I'm seeing here is from the guy who hates all the live-action stuff, which is fine but clearly not what the review-bombing stuff is about. It's similar on various Star Wars subreddits - I'm not seeing people hating. Some people are a little bored, but that's very different.

My partner believes Frankenstein is an allegory of post-natal depression.

That's an interesting take, I can see that given that she experienced it. I feel like seeing it primarily as an allegory slightly detracts from its foundational relationship to sci-fi - but then maybe it's both.