D&D General The 2024 PHB is the best Player's Handbook ever

[Morrus]

So. You aren't trying to make a point. This thread is just for the lolz?

Nearly every version has examples of play. How is one example better than another, version to version?

Believe it or not, previous editions had a table of contents and index for ease of rules reference.

How is it better (as you say) than previous editions?

"Stuff" ..... yeah. How is "stuff" more comprehensive and authoritative than previous editions?

Go hang out on D&D Beyond's Discord channel and tell me that again (it's a stream of constant typos and errors found by players).

More evocative of all the fantasy genres than earlier editions? Nope. The lastest art will never touch Erol Otus, Dave Trampier, Jeff Dee and Larry Elmore.

If 2024 is a masterpiece, then the D&D Rules Cyclopedia should be worshiped as holy writ, because it's the benchmark of what D&D is meant to be. WotC has never made the commitment to high-level play that is offered in the RC. No rules for land-owning PCs. No rules for building powerful alliances. No rules for establishing strongholds and kingdoms. No rules for waging war against monster hordes or rival nations.

In order to be the best, the game has to offer the best options. WotC never has.

Oh, look. You're being a snide douchebag. Again. Yet another warning (that makes 9), yet another thread eviction.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Pot, meet kettle.

Don't see that as insulting, sorry. Art is literally your first impression, just like wrapping paper.

 

[Hatmatter]

After reading through the new PHB again and making a few new characters using the character creation rules, I thought I would share here my enthusiasm for the 2024 revision. I am very impressed with it. I was not really looking for anything like Weapon Masteries, but I like the additional options they provide. I like the attempt to use saving throws in a more coherent and consistent way. The use of language in the book is economical and precise, yet evocative and fun to read. It's obvious the game is a refinement culling from the experience of thousands of players over the past decade. And the 2014 version was a version itself developed and iterated upon drawing from the previous forty years of experience.

I met a new player looking for a group the other night and I found myself enthusiastic in sharing the new PHB with her. It is fun for me to have this kind of enthusiasm for the revision given that my first reaction to the announcement of One D&D was disappointment. I am glad that they kept the core rules and merely made revisions, streamlining changes, and improvements.

No doubt others will disagree, especially here at ENWorld; nevertheless, having just finished using it this past weekend, I thought I would direct a little love toward the book and the approach taken for the revisions in general.

 

[abirdcall]

I have a player at my table who didn't intend to buy any books. He was just going to use a PDF as needed and we have 2 PHBs at the table which is enough.

He is more into Pathfinder and other games. After seeing how good my collector's edition looks he went out and got a copy.

 

[Parmandur]

I have a player at my table who didn't intend to buy any books. He was just going to use a PDF as needed and we have 2 PHBs at the table which is enough.

He is more into Pathfinder and other games. After seeing how good my collector's edition looks he went out and got a copy.

Makes sense.

 

[DinoInDisguise]

No doubt others will disagree, especially here at ENWorld; nevertheless, having just finished using it this past weekend, I thought I would direct a little love toward the book and the approach taken for the revisions in general.

If you only ever share "popular" opinions, you come off as artificial. So express your love for the book and who cares if a bunch of us grognards disagree. It's all in good fun.

Go look at some of my hot takes, they'll make your eyes bleed. xD

 

[Hatmatter]

If you only ever share "popular" opinions, you come off as artificial. So express your love for the book and who cares if a bunch of us grognards disagree. It's all in good fun.

Go look at some of my hot takes, they'll make your eyes bleed. xD

I thought I'd actually take you up on that and I started to read some of your posts from the last few months; I quickly realized that I was actually rereading them and that I had given almost all of them positive reactions.

 

[DinoInDisguise]

I thought I'd actually take you up on that and I started to read some of your posts from the last few months; I quickly realized that I was actually rereading them and that I had given almost all of them positive reactions.

Sorry. I don't pay that much attention to who is reacting to my posts, and to be honest, I didn't expect you to take me up on it.

 

[Hatmatter]

Sorry. I don't pay that much attention to who is reacting to my posts, and to be honest, I didn't expect you to take me up on it.

Surprise!