D&D (2024) I have the DMG. AMA!

[Hatmatter]

Some of us would argue that D&D 5e changed after the "golden age" you're describing, and it became less of a good fit for us. This leads (naturally I feel) to unrest and disarisfaction.

I've lived through it all, Micah. All of it. It was not a golden age. It was just a period of time when there were fewer people who had the metaphorical stick up their rears.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

How much is the DM permitted to interact with a Bastion and is it really something utterly detached from the setting wotld?

They are the arbiter of whether or not bastions are included in their game AT ALL, for one, so no - it is not detached from the setting world.

No, the players and DM work together (there's that word again, it's almost like it's a fundamental part of the game, and is mentioned OVER AND OVER in this book. Yes, it's almost like players and DMs need to actually learn how to get along with other people) to make the Bastion.

In fact, RAW, it's the DM who "rolls on the Bastions table" to say what happens on a "Bastion Turn". And, at least, IMO, a DM "rolling on a table" is another word for a DM "making stuff up". The results of a roll on any given table, IMO, is "inspiration for if you're short on ideas" not "you are strictly stuck with the result you get".

So, yeah - the DM has a lot to do with Bastions. It's just that the player is expected to take some of the workload and roleplay (and name, if they wish) their hirelings and what those hirelings do to get their jobs done.

 

[Imaro]

Ask a question about the words I actually posted in 250 instead of a claim misattributed to it and I'll try?

Riiiight.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I've lived through it all, Micah. All of it. It was not a golden age. It was just a period of time when there were fewer people who had the metaphorical stick up their rears.

Sure. I was more referring to a golden age of positive discourse, and suggesting a reason why it ended.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

There are other ways for companies to get capital for their products now. You’re also ignoring the 30 years of the TTRPG industry in which none of the companies producing TTRPGs were publicly traded.

Sure, and they failed to expand the hobby because they were not publicly traded. D&D remained a tiny, extremely elitist, hobby. Which is why, I suspect, there are people who want those days back. “These PLCs, they let any old riffraff play!”

 

[Doc_Klueless]

I used to really like Chef Boyardee Beefaroni. But I think they changed the recipe or my tastes changed or something and I don't care for it much anymore.

My daughter loves Chef Boyardee Beefaroni. Thinks it's very, very tasty. She has no interest in finding and consuming "classic" cans of Chef Boyardee Beefaroni because she likes what she's got. When I casually mentioned that I thought the old recipe tasted better, she replied with "Yeah, ok, but I like this one."

She's not interested in them trying to recreate the old formula. She's got what she likes.

I buy it for her and not for me. I'm happy that she's getting what she likes.

I don't eat it anymore. I've moved to Spaghetti O's with Meatballs.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Sure, and they failed to expand the hobby because they were not publicly traded. D&D remained a tiny, extremely elitist, hobby. Which is why, I suspect, there are people who want those days back. “These PLCs, they let any old riffraff play!”

In what way was it "elitist"? You realize how much of an insult that is to anyone who disagrees with you?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I've lived through it all, Micah. All of it. It was not a golden age. It was just a period of time when there were fewer people who had the metaphorical stick up their rears.

That’s how nostalgia of any type works, and why it is such a negative emotion. It’s a longing for an imaginary golden age that never existed.

 

[Hatmatter]

I used to really like Chef Boyardee Beefaroni. But I think they changed the recipe or my tastes changed or something and I don't care for it much anymore.

My daughter loves Chef Boyardee Beefaroni. Thinks it's very, very tasty. She has no interest in finding and consuming "classic" cans of Chef Boyardee Beefaroni because she likes what she's got. When I casually mentioned that I thought the old recipe tasted better, she replied with "Yeah, ok, but I like this one."

She's not interested in them trying to recreate the old formula. She's got what she likes.

I buy it for her and not for me. I'm happy that she's getting what she likes.

I don't eat it anymore. I've moved to Spaghetti O's with Meatballs.

Dude, now you got me hungry for some pasta in a can.

 

[tetrasodium]

I don't know why people seem to think that WotC needs to enforce (or is even capable of enforcing) manners at the table. And heck, there's a whole section on "Mutual Respect" and "Respect the DM".

I'm pretty sure that we wouldn't like what we'd get if the game were forced to mechanically support every possible instance of making sure that players don't act like jerks.

So you don't see any problem with removing things like the minimum safeguards baked into RAW of resting & recovery & other areas of RAW setup to force what comes off as nerf by fiat if ever challenged or made to matter? They could switch those from statements like "minimum of 1 hour" to "a good period of calm to recover" while assuming that that the GM adjudicating those things has "manners"?

Nothing would change since it's a fundamental part of the game since the players and DM work together as mentioned OVER AND OVER in this book right?