D&D (2024) I have the DMG. AMA!

[TiQuinn]

What about a veteran of decades of war who turn their back on their lord and went ronin?

Exactly! Now you got it!

 

[Micah Sweet]

There’s nothing I dislike more in a setting than a “god of arcane magic”.

I'm fine with it. Magic is just as much a thing in most fantasy settings as war and agriculture. Why shouldn't it have its own patron?

 

[Scribe]

The Realms method, which is similar, works for me too.

Yeah there was a time a few years ago now where I was thinking that active Gods/Pantheon's just wasnt workable, or at least was less than ideal.

I've shifted back the other way, because if we cannot have actual Gods in Fantasy, where else can we explore the concept?

It just doesnt make sense to me to cut them out of the fabric of what we build.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Closer than what D&D has.

Care to back that up? How is a D&D cleric less of a cleric than Spider-Man is?

 

[Micah Sweet]

Perhaps you are right about most games, but I am really okay with D&D having a more asymmetrical approach to balance and what you would perceive as "fairness". Classes should work, feel and interact differently with the world around then.

If it makes sense for a cleric to lose his powers for betraying his own beliefs, so be it. It's part of the experience of playing as this kind of classes.

Yup. Fairness is subjective and nuanced.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Why do we let everyone roll for stealth checks then? Why not go back to percentile tables for rogue abilities? Sorry, Mr. wizard, you’re a wizard, you can’t stealth even though you aren’t wearing armor and have a high DEX. Shoulda joined the thieves guild like me!

How are those things remotely the same?

Seriously. I do not understand this argument.

 

[Belen]

Well dang, ya know, sure seems like there’s more than a few DMs who still want that nuclear option though.

Sure.

I think it provides setting flavor to have priests and holy warriors need to adhere to their religion or oaths.

There should be consequences to breaking covenants.

The rule should say, don’t be a jerk to the players and narrowly interpret things to get your way in game.

The players should also be told not to be jerks and talk to the DM about where you want to take your character.

I have rule of no evil player characters in my games. Violating that would turn you into an npc. I did allow it once for a player who wanted to roll a new character and his old one became a villain.

 

[TiQuinn]

How are those things remotely the same?

Seriously. I do not understand this argument.

If the argument is that not every class should follow the same formula, then I counter that we don’t need every class to roll d20 tests. Rogues should be the only ones who can stealth and that formula should be based on percentile dice rather d20 mechanics.

Cause ya know…formula doesn’t have to be the same.

 

[Micah Sweet]

If the argument is that not every class should follow the same formula, then I counter that we don’t need every class to roll d20 tests. Rogues should be the only ones who can stealth and that formula should be based on percentile dice rather d20 mechanics.

Cause ya know…formula doesn’t have to be the same.

Hiding isn't about class fantasy and where your power comes from.

Unless it comes from hiding, I suppose.

 

[TiQuinn]

Hiding isn't about class fantasy and where your power comes from.

Sure it is. For rogues.