When Do the 5E “Ride or Die” Folks Become Grogs Like The Rest of Us in “D&D Older Editions” And When Do We Get D&D 5E Flair for Posts?


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I think this is an interesting discussion. I find it really interesting because I'm not sure what the selling point of the new 5.5E actually is. I've been going through the new PHB and I see major development with the new fighting styles/weapon properties and then a lot of other stuff that ... I just don't really like. I'm not sure what to actually make of the changes but I haven't found anything that I said "cool!" for.

I don't think this means I will abandon the game (although my group is discussing whether we want to keep playing 5E at all) but I'm just having this sense of "this is it?"

I suppose I will eventually move to the new rules but I'm trying and failing to be really excited about it. Maybe that makes me get a new grognard pin.
 

I think this is an interesting discussion. I find it really interesting because I'm not sure what the selling point of the new 5.5E actually is. I've been going through the new PHB and I see major development with the new fighting styles/weapon properties and then a lot of other stuff that ... I just don't really like. I'm not sure what to actually make of the changes but I haven't found anything that I said "cool!" for.

I don't think this means I will abandon the game (although my group is discussing whether we want to keep playing 5E at all) but I'm just having this sense of "this is it?"

I suppose I will eventually move to the new rules but I'm trying and failing to be really excited about it. Maybe that makes me get a new grognard pin.
My group is seeing it as adding a lot of Quality of Life improvements - not too much is major, but a lot of nice little changes here and there. Plus, my 5e books were getting beat up (you should see my Monster Manual) so getting a new set after 10 years is quite alright in timing.
 


I think this is an interesting discussion. I find it really interesting because I'm not sure what the selling point of the new 5.5E actually is. I've been going through the new PHB and I see major development with the new fighting styles/weapon properties and then a lot of other stuff that ... I just don't really like. I'm not sure what to actually make of the changes but I haven't found anything that I said "cool!" for.

I don't think this means I will abandon the game (although my group is discussing whether we want to keep playing 5E at all) but I'm just having this sense of "this is it?"

I suppose I will eventually move to the new rules but I'm trying and failing to be really excited about it. Maybe that makes me get a new grognard pin.
I think that if one is a long term player there is no requirement to be excited by the new books, they are for practical purposes new splat books.
Now, I am not the same as you, in that there are things in both books that I quite like. However, I also think that for their purpose, the gateway to D&D for new players and DMs they are the best of their type produced for WoTC D&D (never read the TSR equivalents).

If you are satisfied with your current game, there is no pressing need to move on to a new version of D&D and if one wants to move onto another game that is fine also.
What is depressing about grognardism, is the refusal to accept that others have moved on.
 


I would like a separate category for threads since it looks like I will probably stick with 2014 D&D save maybe the dmg and Maybe? MM? I am sure I will get some adventures.

But if I am talking about character design for my favorite class, I won’t want Dewback I can’t use.
 



To me, the elimination of race as a factor in character build is the biggest functional change to the game since AD&D ended the D&D "race as class" mechanic and was really the biggest mechanical difference between the various numbered editions of D&D and the B/X & BECMI games which were really the truest decedents of OD&D and Chainmail. I suppose the 3x3 alignment matrix was also different, but it was as irrelevant to the mechanics of the game as it still is today.

It may not really matter that much, but it is a pretty big shift in the flavor of the game.
 

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