D&D (2024) Thoughts on Stealth and D&D2024

[Parmandur]

Being in their line of sight doesn’t normally end the condition. Neither the condition nor any of its sources say so.

It is right there, until the other creature finds you.

Truesight works by entirely ypassing the Invisivle condition entirely.

 

[Charlaquin]

It is right there, until the other creature finds you.

Except nothing says the creature can find you if you’re in its line of sight.

 

[Selas]

Except nothing says the creature can find you if you’re in its line of sight.

Removed comment since it was for another post; my bad

 

[Selas]

Except nothing says the creature can find you if you’re in its line of sight.

This is represented by Active (Search) or Passive Perception Checks in combat. Outside combat, the DM still uses stealth checks or can make the call to determine if circumstances allow for hiding based on narrative. That's how I would interpret this using Line of Sight rules in page 45 of the DMG

 

[ezo]

Quick question: if you must be out of any enemy's line of sight in order to take the Hide action, why are you trying to hide in the first place since they already can't see you???

 

[Parmandur]

Except nothing says the creature can find you if you’re in its line of sight.

Except the rules about line of sight...?

Again, this all seems to be a problem primarily in theory, rather than in actual practice.

 

[Charlaquin]

This is represented by Active (Search) or Passive Perception Checks in combat. Outside combat, the DM still uses stealth checks or can make the call to determine if circumstances allow for hiding based on narrative. That's how I would interpret this using Line of Sight rules in page 45 of the DMG

You are making a lot of assumptions about things the text does not actually state. Which is great for you, but I don’t think the rules should leave that up to you to make those assumptions.

 

[KYRON45]

I feel like hiding is like those dog videos where the puppy thinks its hiding under the blanket, but its tail is sticking out and wagging like a flag in the wind. The dog thinks its hiding, but you know where he is.
Anyone can only ever think they are hiding.
This was a better formed thought in my head.

 

[Charlaquin]

Except the rules about line of sight...?

The rules about line of sight say that a creature can’t see you when you’re in their line of sight…? That’s news to me, and seems to suggest no one can see anything ever…

 

[MerricB]

Quick question: if you must be out of any enemy's line of sight in order to take the Hide action, why are you trying to hide in the first place since they already can't see you???

Historically, there's this concept that once hidden you can move sneakily, moving into areas where they'd be able to see you if you weren't keeping to the shadows, etc.

Mechanically, it's also to give rogues something to do with their bonus action so they can hide then attack and get advantage (and sneak attack). Steady Aim negates a lot of that reason, but this is before that.

Cheers!