D&D (2024) Wargamer Takes Shot At WotC for Not Respecting Forgotten Realms Canon.

[TiQuinn]

Yes, but in this case the fiction has not shifted and it is unlikely they will revisit Cormyr in any product in the near future.

And we're back to why is this a problem then.

Also, doesn't the existence of the PDK suggest that the fiction has shifted. What more is required if Cormyr is not going to get an update?

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Dude, if you’re going to be rude I’m just going to block you. So….blocked.

You know, he can't read that anymore (probably). And even if you disabled two way block, this is a rude thing to do.

Edit: sorry. Did not see it was already noderated.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

When I was a kid, Dragonlance was the first setting that I read books about from D&D lore. I loved the idea of dragon riders.

I've never even heard of purple dragon knights before.

Now that I've learned about their origin (tied with Cormyr) it all makes sense.

I'll just make a mental retcon adjustment that in "current year in Torial", this order of Paladins have started riding good-aligned dragons (not just "amethyst" ones. There, done, I'll just ignore the fluff descriptions. These paladins make pacts with good dragons. I like that.

I guess I can live with this.

You meant Fighters. Honestly if folks have a story context for the change that respected the past that would be different, but we have no context, like say a war between evil dragons vs Gem Dragon & Cormyr forcing an alliance of nessassity to stop them, instead it just seems to be a retcon coming out of no where.

I mean I know instinctively that this is tied to their decision to upgrade the Purple Dragons to being a faction not locked to Cormyr, but more like the Harpers, Zhents, Emerald Conclave, Order of the Gauntlet, Lords Alliance, Red Wizards.

 

[ECMO3]

And we're back to why is this a problem then.

Also, doesn't the existence of the PDK suggest that the fiction has shifted. What more is required if Cormyr is not going to get an update?

If Cormyr is not updated then the fiction has not changed. The existance of a class or subclass does not change the fiction.

 

[Staffan]

Yes, but in this case the fiction has not shifted and it is unlikely they will revisit Cormyr in any product in the near future.

My understanding is that the 5.5e FR sourcebooks will have an overview of all of Faerûn, with a closer look at certain regions (Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, Calimshan, Moonshae, and the Dalelands). So there'll probably be some info on what Cormyr's been up to the last 20-30 years (since 4e).

 

[Bayushi_seikuro]

I think the 'Concern' over the Purple Dragon Knights of Cormyr is interesting, given how much more Sword Coast/Icewind Dale stuff we have given to us. I mean, 'Everyone' is still bonkers over BG3 - to the point where people don't know about how they laid out the Flaming Fist way back when.

Since most stuff seems to be Sword Coast-centric, it doesn't make much sense for a PDK to even BE that far out west.

(For the record, I'm still a Dales/Moonsea kinda guy)

 

[TiQuinn]

If Cormyr is not updated then the fiction has not changed. The existance of a class or subclass does not change the fiction.

That’s a choice though. Just as me ignoring the bits of FR lore or canon that I don’t like, ignoring stuff that is actually there, including class changes that suggest changes to the lore is a choice you’re making.

 

[ECMO3]

That’s a choice though. Just as me ignoring the bits of FR lore or canon that I don’t like, ignoring stuff that is actually there, including class changes that suggest changes to the lore is a choice you’re making.

I don't think that is the case. What they suggest to me is the person writing the subclass knows nothing about the Lore and just read Purple Dragon and went with it.

Who knows, maybe I am wrong.

 

[TerraDave]

Is clicking on a thread like the one in OP and getting (anything focused on) the Purple Dragon Knight the new rickrolling?

It sure feels like it.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Yes, but in this case the fiction has not shifted and it is unlikely they will revisit Cormyr in any product in the near future.

They will certainly revisit Cormyr in the FRPG coming out in Novermber. They likely won't go as deep as the deep dives in the FRAG, bit it will get an update this year.

Good chance it will also get explored in Fallbacks: Dealing With Dragons.

But the problem is we are being asked to sit in judgement of something without the context, and until we get the context, it comes off as retcon & the Fandom does not want more sloppy retcons.