D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

[Zardnaar]

I'm somewhere in the middle. Ove moved to every new edition essentially.

BUT there's limits. It's not that change is bad but you like what you like.
If you change something to much it can negate whatever you liked about the product to begin with.

 

[Minigiant]

I'm still shocked there are no evil Superman to fight in any official, popular 3PP, or big homebrew version of D&D of its clones.

There's evil Supermen everywhere else.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

They did reprints of 1e and 2e a few years back (not sure if they did 3e as well)

It was during the 3E/4E transition 17 (!) years ago. The 3E core books got some deluxe cover treatments and the internal contents were updated to the latest errata. I regret now not buying those for my archives, even though I was well and truly done with 3E by that point.

The 1E and 2E books were quite good. The 1E Slavers compendium even has a new intro adventure, numbered A0, added to it as a prelude.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I'm still shocked there are no evil Superman to fight in any official, popular 3PP, or big homebrew version of D&D of its clones.

There's evil Supermen everywhere else.

THERE'S ONE BEHIND YOU RIGHT NOW!

 

[Scribe]

I think you should reread the OP, because that is clearly not what it’s talking about.

I'll believe the words I read, actually.

 

[jgsugden]

Both change and stability have benefits. We're going to feel the problem with a lack of stability over the next several years as the community continues to fracture into different systems.

 

[Warpiglet-7]

It is exhausting to listen intently to people that don’t like the new constantly tear it down.

I however find it mind numbing when apologists can’t tolerate any dissent. Yes, that rule change or art direction is a real problem to me. Glad u don’t mind it.

In the end I am true to myself but fomo is a powerful force.

I hung my head and admitted 2024 D&D was not for me just as I ultimately passed on 4e.

But I don’t just reject everything. 3e was not 1e; 5e is not 3e. I was excited about all of their innovations.

All good. I am just tuning the noise out more and trying to spend more time perfecting my mountain/forest table. People can fight eachother for edition supremacy…I realize it is not worth my time

 

[billd91]

The issue, I think, is that there are people who probably would be a lot happier with an OSR game who stick with 5E -- and don't like it -- because it says "Dungeons & Dragons" on the label.

Well sure, you get lots more network efficiency that way - meaning more products, more players, widespread familiarity, etc, even if they aren’t a perfect fit.

 

[Micah Sweet]

My point isn't that people shouldn't liek what they like, but rather they should play the game they like rather than constantly complaining that the current game isn't the old game. Just play what you like.

This thread was inspired by a poster literally saying that they would give the current game a try if only it used the old art. Literally used the old art.

That is what is exhausting. Just play 2E or whatever.

Some people really value art. I prefer the old art myself, but the words (from any edition) matter a lot more.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I would say this conservatism also applies to the open playtest "design by committee" aspect of 5e as well. They put out some really cool stuff in the playtests only to see it nerfed into oblivion by the people who insist on having things like resource management be a major part of the game. There seems to be a general shift away from resource management these days (look at the recent threads here about tracking ammunition, food, etc), and yet we end up with things like druids who can only turn into animals a paltry number of times per day and arcane archers who can only do their special trick arrows a paltry number of times a day.

I would love to see the game become more liberal with resource management. Back when I DMed 4e, I experimented with applying the recharge mechanic to PCs' encounter and daily powers. It worked great! The players loved it and it didn't noticeably overpower them. I'd love to do something like that in 5e as well.

I would think the same philosophy @Reynard is advocating would apply to your preferences as well. Why not just play a game that doesn't focus on resource management to your discomfort?