D&D General How much do you care about rule change specifics?

[mellored]

It is in human nature to complain about stuff you don't like, but barely say anything about stuff you do like.

People don't go on forums to say they had a good session with the rules 9 times of 10. They go on the forums when that 1 out of 10. Or the 1 person who doesn't like it vs the 9 who do.

Happy people are quiet. As such, what you see is nearly always more negative than the truth.

Meanwhile, D&D is more popular than ever.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

I thought we were supposed to use 2014 options that hadn't been replaced by 5.5 ones?

Well it seems odd to complain about 2024 stuff with an option not even made for it.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Well it seems odd to complain about 2024 stuff with an option not even made for it.

If WotC thought there was a problem with the rune knight in 5.5 couldn't they say or do something about it?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

If WotC thought there was a problem with the rune knight in 5.5 couldn't they say or do something about it?

Yes they could. But that wasn’t my point.

 

[Reynard]

It is in human nature to complain about stuff you don't like, but barely say anything about stuff you do like.

People don't go on forums to say they had a good session with the rules 9 times of 10. They go on the forums when that 1 out of 10. Or the 1 person who doesn't like it vs the 9 who do.

Happy people are quiet. As such, what you see is nearly always more negative than the truth.

Meanwhile, D&D is more popular than ever.

While this may be true, it isn't an answer to the question. I wasn't asking why people don't like rule changes. I was asking if YOU have particularly strong feelings about rule changes, particularly "mid edition" rule changes.

 

[el-remmen]

I don’t get “upset,” but I do have preferences both for some grandfathered rules and for house rules we’ve been playing with no matter the edition.

Anyway, as far as I’m concerned D&D is best when modular and home brewed.

 

[ezo]

I am not sure what you mean by RAW for multiclassing. Like 2014 multiclassing was also RAW cause that just means rules as written.
Like there is no fundamental change in the nature of multiclassing between 2014 and 2024.

Multiclassing in 2014 was explicitly optional. A DM could say "no" and you didn't have a player throwing "RAW" in your face. As I understand it, that is not the case in 2024. Multiclassing is no longer "officially" (i.e. RAW) optional.

Also Rune Knight is not even a 2024 option it’s a 2014 one. The number of options is also seriously not much different than it was in 2014.

Right, it was in Tasha's, which the OP cited. So, I listed it as one example of power creep.

And as @Micah Sweet said, everything up to 2024 is fair game and "works" in 2024... including Rune Knight.

 

[mellored]

While this may be true, it isn't an answer to the question. I wasn't asking why people don't like rule changes. I was asking if YOU have particularly strong feelings about rule changes, particularly "mid edition" rule changes.

I like the majority of the changes.
As did the majority of players via the survey.

Classes are more balanced, martials have interesting things to do besides stand and attack, both in and out of combat. I'm tempted to go fighter 2 just for the skill boost.


If you want me to be negative, I don't like

• Topple. Too many dice rolls. Though I'd rather remove attack rolls all together.
• Monks Deflect Attack is a bit too much.
• Conjure Minor Elementals scaling. Though I rarely get high level enough for it to matter.
• ...

But I'm not in a complaining mood at the moment.

 

[J.Quondam]

For home games, I've only ever really noticed rules changes (in any system, D&D or otherwise) with new players who might be expecting one thing when I'm playing to another. It's not really any different than house rules, ime; it just requires communication.
Might be different for "official" play, or maybe convention games with strangers who may or may not have particular expectations.

 

[Micah Sweet]

I like the majority of the changes.
As did the majority of players via the survey.

Classes are more balanced, martials have interesting things to do besides stand and attack, both in and out of combat. I'm tempted to go fighter 2 just for the skill boost.


If you want me to be negative, I don't like

• Topple. Too many dice rolls. Though I'd rather remove attack rolls all together.
• Monks Deflect Attack is a bit too much.
• Conjure Minor Elementals scaling. Though I rarely get high level enough for it to matter.
• ...

But I'm not in a complaining mood at the moment.

I can't accept that the majority of survey respondents equals the majority of players. I know my group (with one exception) wouldn't even know there was a 5.5 if I hadn't told them.