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I think the issue of Padme and Anakin was more due to a lack of chemistry between the actors. I mean Han Solo and Princess Leia don't make a huge amount of sense either. And it isn't the kind of movie series where they are going to gradually get into the romance in a nuanced way (it is done more like opera). But Harrison Ford and Carry Fisher had tremendous chemistry. And their romance was kind of wedged in with the action but worked somehow. Anakin and Padme had whole dinner dates, but they just felt so lifeless together. You watch Han and Leia and you want them to be together. Even if you don't like romance in movies, you want them to be happy. I don't think I ever cared what happened with Padme and Anakin (and I like both actors independently, they just didn't particularly fit each other)
 

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I think the issue of Padme and Anakin was more due to a lack of chemistry between the actors. I mean Han Solo and Princess Leia don't make a huge amount of sense either. And it isn't the kind of movie series where they are going to gradually get into the romance in a nuanced way (it is done more like opera). But Harrison Ford and Carry Fisher had tremendous chemistry. And their romance was kind of wedged in with the action but worked somehow. Anakin and Padme had whole dinner dates, but they just felt so lifeless together. You watch Han and Leia and you want them to be together. Even if you don't like romance in movies, you want them to be happy. I don't think I ever cared what happened with Padme and Anakin (and I like both actors independently, they just didn't particularly fit each other)
Agree. The lack of chemistry was spectacular.

In a recent-ish interview Portman herself seemed to be saying she was basically aromantic around that time, which probably didn't help, but she managed to perform a lot more convincingly in some only slightly later films, so I have to figure Lucas' direction and writing didn't help.

And I feel like Lucas kind of wrecked Hayden Christensen's career, like, sure Christensen's performance isn't great, but almost no-one's is (really only the more experienced adult actors are even making it to "okay", and Christopher Lee may be the only actual "good" performance in all three movies), and I would put a lot of the blame for that with Lucas and his writing/directing. He was much better in the few other things I saw him in.

And that would have been a good story. But it simply isn't there on screen.
Yup.

I get that Lucas intended that, it certainly flows logically from what's going on in the movies and who we know the characters are/become. But as you say, it simply isn't actually part of the direction/writing. Lucas screwed up.

even though the story itself is strong
I would nuance this a bit and say the concept is strong, the idea for the story is a good idea - but the execution is so unusually dreadful that I don't the story as executed could really be called strong, personally.

I rewatched the prequels a few years ago, and they were both better and worse than I remembered, but the storytelling, script, pacing, and characterization were actually significantly worse than I remembered. Also AotC was really incredibly bad as a movie. I kind of liked it (sorta) when I saw it at the cinema, but ooof!
 
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The prequel trilogy as a whole is a tragedy of epic proportions, from the Republic to the Jedi to the 'romance' of Anakin and Padme. Republics fall as much from their own failures as from external forces.
Well, I do agree that the prequel trilogy is a tragedy of epic proportions...

So much wasted time. So much atrociously bad writing. So many wasted opportunities. Yup, I'll agree that it's a tragedy.
 

Also AotC was really incredibly bad as a movie. I kind of liked it (sorta) when I saw it at the cinema, but ooof!
I think, for a lot of people, it made a good first impression after all the moaning about Jar Jar and the Phantom Menace. But I don't think it's a lasting impression, particularly not when you actually delve into it and give it some thought. Then it really does suffer.
 

I rewatch 4-6 every year and the prequels every few years.

I tried to watch the sequels again. The only sequel movie I have found that I am able to enjoy is TFA. TFA can be watched again. Rey and Finn had a lot of potential in that film and are the only new sequel characters I find likable. I really wish that TLJ had not taken a hammer to their characters and journeys.

I have seen episodes 8-9 multiple times but I find little value in them. TLJ just took the setup from TFA and smashed it leaving no room for growth and 9 can only be watched once. Future watches of 9 just make it worse each time because you have already gotten the nostalgia junk out of the way.

I have found the prequel era more compelling since '99. I hated the prequels until Clone Wars rescued the era. I can sit and enjoy them now.

I cannot image that happening with the sequels. I have reach the sequel era novels and nothing makes that era better. The authors were too constrained in the stories they could tell and it is obvious that the period between episode 6 and 7 was never really planned out or story-boarded effectively. Even Mandoverse has done an awful job showing the interim period.

My favorite movie will always be ANH. I saw it when I was 4 during the re-release in 1980 and it is the movie I re-watch the most. My kids 12 and 7 also love Star Wars and we watch the movies as a family although they also refuse to re-watch the sequels even when I ask them.
 

I think, for a lot of people, it made a good first impression after all the moaning about Jar Jar and the Phantom Menace. But I don't think it's a lasting impression, particularly not when you actually delve into it and give it some thought. Then it really does suffer.
I think that's exactly right.

It was entirely a "by comparison" thing at the time, and going back to them more recently, every flaw (and there are many!) sticks out. TPM is a sillier movie, but it's a slightly better one, overall.
 

When I first saw TPM in the theater, I very nearly walked out. Ie as so angry that I didn’t bother to watch AotC or RotS in theaters.

I watched AotC years later when it was on TV.

I don’t remember when I first watched RotS but it’s the only one of the prequels I have on DVD. I really like the novelisation of RotS too. I think it does a much better job of selling Anakin’s fall. (For instance, instead of just protesting him as a whiny baby when the council refuses to grant him the rank of master like in the movie, the book establishes that Palpatine has told Anakin that the Sith secrets to saving Padme’s life are in the Jedi Temple library’s restricted section, which only a Jedi Master is allowed to access. So the reason he’s upset about being denied master status isn’t because “it’s not fair” but because he feels he needs that status to save Padme.)

I have rewatched TPM more recently and felt it wasn’t as bad as I remembered. That being said, it could really do with a glow-up, especially the battle between the gungans and droids. It LOOKs unfinished and very green screened. The terrain in particular …)

I’m not sure anything can be done to save AotC. Everything about it is just leaden – the acting, the fight scenes. It’s all so boring and cringey.

RotS has some flaws but it really is the best of the three. I will happily rewatch it and have done on multiple occasions.
 

I don’t remember when I first watched RotS but it’s the only one of the prequels I have on DVD. I really like the novelisation of RotS too. I think it does a much better job of selling Anakin’s fall. (For instance, instead of just protesting him as a whiny baby when the council refuses to grant him the rank of master like in the movie, the book establishes that Palpatine has told Anakin that the Sith secrets to saving Padme’s life are in the Jedi Temple library’s restricted section, which only a Jedi Master is allowed to access. So the reason he’s upset about being denied master status isn’t because “it’s not fair” but because he feels he needs that status to save Padme.)
I listened to the audiobook version of this quite recently (after watching this video) and yes, it definitely does a good job of enhancing the story, especially the inevitability of the tragedy and Anakin's relationship with Obi-wan.
 

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