Spoilers Alien: Earth Spoiler Thread
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Waterbizkit
Explorer
Just finished watching the latest episode.
I should really take the time to offer more than one-liners given my enjoyment of the show thus far, but as usual I'm pressed for time and can only currently offer...
Oh my... oh my, yes please. More.
Wit and comprehensive reviews are clearly my forte. a rimshot can be heard in the distance
I should really take the time to offer more than one-liners given my enjoyment of the show thus far, but as usual I'm pressed for time and can only currently offer...
Oh my... oh my, yes please. More.
Wit and comprehensive reviews are clearly my forte. a rimshot can be heard in the distance
Swanosaurus
Adventurer
Episode 4 is really putting a lot of things into motion ...
Wendy/Xenomorphs echoes Alien Ressurrection, but in a more interesting way. I'm still curious if they'll come up with an explanation for her "hearing" the aliens.
The computer scientists (what's his name) pointing out the craziness of sending the kids into the wreck, of keeping these alien creatures in the lab next door - yeah, he does a lot to make all of this more believable. There are actually people who know a bad idea when they see it, they're just not in charge.
Great dialogue between the bald guy and hermit.
Great stuff between Aarush and Morrow. The idea of the hybrids being children really comes to the forefront, and I think the actors are all doing a great job with it.
Wendy/Xenomorphs echoes Alien Ressurrection, but in a more interesting way. I'm still curious if they'll come up with an explanation for her "hearing" the aliens.
The computer scientists (what's his name) pointing out the craziness of sending the kids into the wreck, of keeping these alien creatures in the lab next door - yeah, he does a lot to make all of this more believable. There are actually people who know a bad idea when they see it, they're just not in charge.
Great dialogue between the bald guy and hermit.
Great stuff between Aarush and Morrow. The idea of the hybrids being children really comes to the forefront, and I think the actors are all doing a great job with it.
Swanosaurus
Adventurer
A few more thoughts:
I love the interaction between Aarush and Morrow, but boy, does Morrow's plan suck!
"Bring me an egg. Meet me outside." How is that supposed to play out? And then, he makes it even harder, both morally and practically: "Get someone facehugged, hide them for one or two days, and then get them out."
Look, Mr. Morrow, this is how it is done:
"Aarush, I am responsible for these creatures. They might pose a danger. What Prodigy is diong with them might endanger people. They did endanger you by sending you in this tower, right? So you know they are capable of doing bad things like that. I need to know what's going on there. I need you to insert yourself into the lab work. Make yourself useful to them, so you can tell me what's going on, and I can see if there's anything to worry about. Maybe it'll all be fine."
And later:
"Okay, what you're telling me ... that might be bad. Might. I don't know yet. Maybe everything is fine. But I need a sample to make sure. You have to get a bit of the organic matter they're working on out to me."
Sounds better, right?
I love the interaction between Aarush and Morrow, but boy, does Morrow's plan suck!
"Bring me an egg. Meet me outside." How is that supposed to play out? And then, he makes it even harder, both morally and practically: "Get someone facehugged, hide them for one or two days, and then get them out."
Look, Mr. Morrow, this is how it is done:
"Aarush, I am responsible for these creatures. They might pose a danger. What Prodigy is diong with them might endanger people. They did endanger you by sending you in this tower, right? So you know they are capable of doing bad things like that. I need to know what's going on there. I need you to insert yourself into the lab work. Make yourself useful to them, so you can tell me what's going on, and I can see if there's anything to worry about. Maybe it'll all be fine."
And later:
"Okay, what you're telling me ... that might be bad. Might. I don't know yet. Maybe everything is fine. But I need a sample to make sure. You have to get a bit of the organic matter they're working on out to me."
Sounds better, right?
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Swanosaurus
Adventurer
And about Hermit:
Does he seem weird to anyone else besides me? Not in the "I'm an android!" way, it's more like psychologically, something seems to be really off. When he says "This discussion is over" to the bald guy and turns away, he really walks as if he already knows he has lost ... which seems quite typical of his whole body language in the series. He seems hopeless, sometimes as if sleepwalking. While his words are assertive and often hopeful, his whole demeanour is the opposite.
Maybe they're just playing him against type: Making him morally upright and outspoken and even emotionally tough, while making him look like a slightly lost, insecure nerd. Which I actually kind of like, though it is weird. Maybe he even is kind of representative of people who have a halfway intact moral compass, but have long since learned that they'll always be on the losing side following it ... they still follow it, but can't just muster up the strength to be all assertive about it in a Ripley-like way, they just say what is right, and then suck it up and move on ...
Finally, general thought:
At this point, I really don't get why this isn't set after Aliens/Alien3. It would make things so much more simple, and as of now, you'd have to change exactly nothing about the story to move it to that timeframe. Why does it have to take place in the crowded prequel/inquel timeline?
Does he seem weird to anyone else besides me? Not in the "I'm an android!" way, it's more like psychologically, something seems to be really off. When he says "This discussion is over" to the bald guy and turns away, he really walks as if he already knows he has lost ... which seems quite typical of his whole body language in the series. He seems hopeless, sometimes as if sleepwalking. While his words are assertive and often hopeful, his whole demeanour is the opposite.
Maybe they're just playing him against type: Making him morally upright and outspoken and even emotionally tough, while making him look like a slightly lost, insecure nerd. Which I actually kind of like, though it is weird. Maybe he even is kind of representative of people who have a halfway intact moral compass, but have long since learned that they'll always be on the losing side following it ... they still follow it, but can't just muster up the strength to be all assertive about it in a Ripley-like way, they just say what is right, and then suck it up and move on ...
Finally, general thought:
At this point, I really don't get why this isn't set after Aliens/Alien3. It would make things so much more simple, and as of now, you'd have to change exactly nothing about the story to move it to that timeframe. Why does it have to take place in the crowded prequel/inquel timeline?
wicked cool
Hero
He sort of acts like many people today. Heck we do it in message boards. It’s block people or bye Felicia etc etc. there’s a lot to f avoid face to face arguments so I could see it trending that way- I’m not arguing with you just what I e noticed
I think the bald guy is also a android but nothing to base it on
I’m wondering who is actually going to survive this. I’m seeing real unstable behavior in several synths and kirsch. With nibs looking like she was about to murder dame we could have something akin to terminators and aliens hunting humans and its yutani in the end that cleans it up
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Well, we have seen the future, and it doesn’t have hybrids in it.
Aellic Mornbringer
Adventurer
This. I figured from the onset that the list of survivors was going to be small given what we know of the setting in the films set later in the timeline but one by one it seems everyone is moving from column "Slim chance of survival" to "Definitely not going to make it". At this point I'm starting to wonder which alien species is going to take down the various characters.
Shoot, for that matter, I think it's a safe assumption that the "Big 5" will become the "Slightly Smaller 4" by the end, with the remaining megacorps dividing up what remains of Prodigy. (which to @Paul Farquhar 's point, won't include the hybrids.)
I do wonder if Kirsch's behavior is a red herring. It almost seems too blatant given the franchise's history of synthetics.
Older Beholder
Hero
Do we know who’s head that was, washed up on the beach in the episodes opening?
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
I thought this was a really strong episode.
I loved that we get the characters acknowledging that "downloading" people into a machine is nonsense. At best, you're copying the personality and memories of a dying person into a machine. Realistically, this is just a ghoulish riff on the personality of dying children.
And we're already seeing what a terrible idea that is. Nibs is going to be a lot of trouble, very soon.
But synthetics (which I could have sworn were typically called "androids" in this franchise) and cyborgs seem to be done with humans generally which, fair. I think it's very interesting that Kirsh is far more capable than anyone around him seems to give him credit for and that he's also playing his own game. I think we might see an echo of David, when all is said and done, with him being happy to unleash hostile aliens on humans, trusting that synthetics will be ignored by them. (Which I suspect won't be true of all the monsters, including whatever the hell is in that dangling cocoon.)
Also trouble is that Boy Kavalier seems to be motivated by envy of anyone getting more attention than him from hostile alien life forms. It'll be great to see something terrible happen to him, of course, so no loss there. His extremely on the nose Peter Pan stuff is another good reason to kill him off. Dude's a trillionaire and doesn't seem to be able to afford a subtext.
Hermit definitely feels lost and overwhelmed by all of this. We'll see if he lives through all of this. I'd say there's a good chance he doesn't.
Morrow is also escalating pretty quickly, although -- as noted -- his plan isn't great, even without Kirsh listening in. If he knows the timeframe for xenomorph gestation, he also knows he has to get out of Prodigy territory fast and back to Weyland-Yutani, all without the hybrids showing up and pounding him into paste. I'm not sure that his armblade is going to stop many of them, especially Wendy and her rival.
Finally, the eyeball monster appears to be the most intelligent alien we've encountered in this franchise, other than the Engineers. Hard to know what it wants to do, but I bet it won't be good. That said, if a murderous inhuman monster takes over Boy Kavalier's body, will anyone notice?
I loved that we get the characters acknowledging that "downloading" people into a machine is nonsense. At best, you're copying the personality and memories of a dying person into a machine. Realistically, this is just a ghoulish riff on the personality of dying children.
And we're already seeing what a terrible idea that is. Nibs is going to be a lot of trouble, very soon.
But synthetics (which I could have sworn were typically called "androids" in this franchise) and cyborgs seem to be done with humans generally which, fair. I think it's very interesting that Kirsh is far more capable than anyone around him seems to give him credit for and that he's also playing his own game. I think we might see an echo of David, when all is said and done, with him being happy to unleash hostile aliens on humans, trusting that synthetics will be ignored by them. (Which I suspect won't be true of all the monsters, including whatever the hell is in that dangling cocoon.)
Also trouble is that Boy Kavalier seems to be motivated by envy of anyone getting more attention than him from hostile alien life forms. It'll be great to see something terrible happen to him, of course, so no loss there. His extremely on the nose Peter Pan stuff is another good reason to kill him off. Dude's a trillionaire and doesn't seem to be able to afford a subtext.
Hermit definitely feels lost and overwhelmed by all of this. We'll see if he lives through all of this. I'd say there's a good chance he doesn't.
Morrow is also escalating pretty quickly, although -- as noted -- his plan isn't great, even without Kirsh listening in. If he knows the timeframe for xenomorph gestation, he also knows he has to get out of Prodigy territory fast and back to Weyland-Yutani, all without the hybrids showing up and pounding him into paste. I'm not sure that his armblade is going to stop many of them, especially Wendy and her rival.
Finally, the eyeball monster appears to be the most intelligent alien we've encountered in this franchise, other than the Engineers. Hard to know what it wants to do, but I bet it won't be good. That said, if a murderous inhuman monster takes over Boy Kavalier's body, will anyone notice?
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